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Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Social Psychology has one of the worst reproducibility problems in all of academia. Claims like this make is easy to see why. Simple scientific inquiry into this claim leads me to the question, “Okay, but why? That women potentially harbor worse feelings of their ex partners on average than men is one of the most interesting but useless things I’ve heard. The confounding explanations for this type of research are min…

Remember Christine Blasey Ford's relationship with Brett Kavanaugh? He recalls their relationship more neutrally and she recalls it more negatively.

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Anecdotal, however I find that in my lifetime I was/am able to 'move on' and forget about things such as minor disagreements between partners where they (female partners) have tended to dwell on things longer than my male friends. Could have been the same if I had male partners I suppose, although that isn't my personal taste. Not just in relationships but even among co-workers I notice there is a lot more gossip bet…

Relationships are more "loaded" with negative personal consequences for women. Less so than in the past, but it's there. There's often a negative interpretation of a woman having more relationships or ending one that isn't really a factor with men. IMO, this creates a bias to justify ending a relationship for cause. With a man, there's no threshold where your next girlfriend will lead to you being categorized negativ…

It seems to me the negative consequences are about the same for men and women. Lots of women speak poorly of their exes and get their friend groups turned against them...

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> Second, there may be gender differences in the perceived causes of breakups. Women blame their male partners more often for breakups than men blame their female partners (Choo et al., 1996). In addition, women more frequently report problematic partner behaviors as the reason for a breakup, such as infidelity, substance abuse, and mental or physical abuse (Amato & Previti, 2003; Morris, Reiber, & Roman, 2015). Men,…

Alternatively, society ascribes agency to men in a way it doesn't to women, and so men are less likely to blame external factors or expect support.

That doesn’t mesh with my anecdata nor data on the proportion of housework women handle. But I do think the blame comment has merit.

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Social Psychology has one of the worst reproducibility problems in all of academia. Claims like this make is easy to see why. Simple scientific inquiry into this claim leads me to the question, “Okay, but why? That women potentially harbor worse feelings of their ex partners on average than men is one of the most interesting but useless things I’ve heard. The confounding explanations for this type of research are min…

In the first paragraph you're asking for causal explanation. Then in the second paragraph you're dishing out a bunch of potential causal explanations as confounders. Some researchers would deem it over-reaching to dish out causal explanations willy nilly. Most of those questions should be relegated to follow-up studies or a BRIEF mention in the discussion section. It's perfectly okay science to simply observe a pheno…

If you don't have the causal explanations then you cannot generalize beyond the population you sampled.

What does that mean? That the correct conclusion to draw is very narrow:

Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do [in Graz, Austria, in the year 2019]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absurd to group half the population into one group, and then try to work out what makes that group as a whole tick.

That's besides my point. My reply was directed at OP's statement. Just crack open Webster's and pick the definition that fits in the context. We don't need to make English any harder.

If you believe the original point was questioning the dictionary definition, I'll leave you to ponder what else they could have been trying to say.

Personally, I think grouping all men together isn't constructive a lot of the time.

Sexuality and gender attributes aren't binary. Most attributes can be defined on a scale. I think this was the nub of the OP's argument.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. I looked at the paper initially wondering whether their sample acknowledges the disproportionate number of men who murder their ex-female-partner, and, while not resolving that, I ended up finding that while the researchers record the type of breakup (substance abuse, personal problems, infidelity, etc), none of their quantified metrics appear to use this as a variable. I'd be curious to see how the outcom…

> wondering whether their sample acknowledges the disproportionate number of men who murder their ex-female-partner Curious how this is relevant to the study? Roughly 0.001% of women are killed by a male partner each year in the US and - while terrible in of itself - I can't see it affecting the results of this study in any significant way.

Among US women, fear/wariness-of and preparedness-for attempts at bodily harm and abusive behavior by men appears to be near-universal.

EDIT: Removed bad pre-coffee math. See replies below for better math.

I hope this helps you see why such a consideration could be considered relevant to the study.

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Social Psychology has one of the worst reproducibility problems in all of academia. Claims like this make is easy to see why. Simple scientific inquiry into this claim leads me to the question, “Okay, but why? That women potentially harbor worse feelings of their ex partners on average than men is one of the most interesting but useless things I’ve heard. The confounding explanations for this type of research are min…

I agree. It seems to be to be a case of 'sounds like it might be right, lets see how far we can run with it'. Ultimately, I can only see a few benefits of this line of enquiry. E.g. "Honey, I'm sorry - but it's not really my fault, it's just my genetic make-up .." Ultimately, while we may be descended from lizards, rationalising behaviours based on our physiological origins might not be that useful. Especially when s…

It might be useful for providing therapy to understand the differences in how men and women see things.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>biological genders The word you're looking for is "sex." There's no such thing as a "biological gender."

"a term for a grammatical subclass to join sex in referring to either of the two primary biological forms of a species" Don't try to rewrite grammar to fit trends. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender

The definition of gender that applies to people is “ the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex”. I don’t see the part you quoted, where is it?

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Linked Paper instead of article:- https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/19485506198766...

Thank you. I looked at the paper initially wondering whether their sample acknowledges the disproportionate number of men who murder their ex-female-partner, and, while not resolving that, I ended up finding that while the researchers record the type of breakup (substance abuse, personal problems, infidelity, etc), none of their quantified metrics appear to use this as a variable. I'd be curious to see how the outcom…

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