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Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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What sort of men? Cisgender men? Heterosexual men? Arabic men? There's no such thing as a man -- "man" an abstract concept that needs definition before any useful statement can be made about people in that category.

Wow, I'm having trouble determining if this is satire.

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post #71
post #41

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If you need "men" defined for you, you're going to have trouble participating in useful communication. Use a bit of intuition.

It's absurd to group half the population into one group, and then try to work out what makes that group as a whole tick.

It makes a lot of sense however, to separate people based on a criterion and find out how the resulting groups differ from each other.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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post #71
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you need "men" defined for you, you're going to have trouble participating in useful communication. Use a bit of intuition.

It's absurd to group half the population into one group, and then try to work out what makes that group as a whole tick.

That's besides my point. My reply was directed at OP's statement. Just crack open Webster's and pick the definition that fits in the context. We don't need to make English any harder.

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My bet is that men tend not to have emotional support or positive attention in their lives, unless it's from a mate, hence they value it more.

Also, (since we're speculating) from an evolutionary perspective it's advantageous for men to have positive view of and attraction to as many women as possible, while at the same time it's advantageous for women to be as sceptical and critical of men as possible.

Awesome point!

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Sexes, not genders. Sexes are biological: chromosomes, hormones, body morphology. Genders are social: baby boys and girls have definite sexes, but their gender identifies are not the same as of grown-up straight men and women, to say nothing of genderqueer people, etc My hope is that the biological aspects are still in the realm of science.

Yes. Gender is arcane, fuzzy, some inscrutable configuration of the brain. Sex is concrete, logical, your allosome configuration. Phew. A bastion of sense in this crazy w-- >Genetic women with Turner syndrome have only one X chromosome; they often display less-developed female sexual characteristics than other women. And people with a genetic mosaic possess XX chromosomes in some cells and XY in others. So how do we…

> Humans do not have five fingers on each hand, because polydactily is a thing.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Social Psychology has one of the worst reproducibility problems in all of academia. Claims like this make is easy to see why. Simple scientific inquiry into this claim leads me to the question, “Okay, but why? That women potentially harbor worse feelings of their ex partners on average than men is one of the most interesting but useless things I’ve heard. The confounding explanations for this type of research are min…

In the first paragraph you're asking for causal explanation. Then in the second paragraph you're dishing out a bunch of potential causal explanations as confounders. Some researchers would deem it over-reaching to dish out causal explanations willy nilly. Most of those questions should be relegated to follow-up studies or a BRIEF mention in the discussion section.

It's perfectly okay science to simply observe a phenomenon. If they did try to provide causal explanations as you say, they'd then be open to being lambasted for overreaching based on shaky social science research.

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What sort of men? Cisgender men? Heterosexual men? Arabic men? There's no such thing as a man -- "man" an abstract concept that needs definition before any useful statement can be made about people in that category.

The article says they only looked at heterosexual relationships, so there's that.

But the articles title just says "men" and "women" not "straight/heterosexual men/women". Seems like a more accurate title would include the fact since you're talking about people in relation to their sexual partners.

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post #60

Social Psychology has one of the worst reproducibility problems in all of academia. Claims like this make is easy to see why. Simple scientific inquiry into this claim leads me to the question, “Okay, but why? That women potentially harbor worse feelings of their ex partners on average than men is one of the most interesting but useless things I’ve heard. The confounding explanations for this type of research are min…

Remember Christine Blasey Ford's relationship with Brett Kavanaugh? He recalls their relationship more neutrally and she recalls it more negatively.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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It's sociology and psychology research, not biology. Biological explanation in this article is speculation not backed by the study.

> Biological explanation You can't study that these days. The orthodoxy insists that any differences in outcomes are solely due to environment, power structures, implicit and explicit biases.

Perhaps that is because we can identify the implicit and explicit biases, power structures, and environmental issues that are in front of our faces, and that there are more differences that can be explained by them than by biological causes.
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