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BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Imagine if CloudFlare or another CDN provider were to automatically public websites on Tor. This would be huge to drive legitimate traffic into the system. It should be trivial to publish your content on Tor as well as the clear web.

You mean like the Cloudflare Onion Service that we launched a year ago: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-onion-service/ It performs an automatic upgrade to use the .onion from Cloudflare if you use TBB (and Brave).

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

Donations are probably better, because while that hardware is helpful, it's the ISP connections that are hard to come by. If you host a Tor exit node on your home network connection, Comcast is likely going to shut down your service for abuse/TOS violations. Having some rack space in a datacenter is far more valuable and better supported by donations.

The network needs both. Too much centralization is a threat to anonymity so it needs users running nodes. At the same time you shouldn't run an exit at home on a consumer connection. Relays are fine though.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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>Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? Well, I've only linked to communities listed by the Tor Project itself. Otherwise, the same way you would check whether HN or your local tea store is the NSA. You do your own research, run your own risk analysis, and if you want to stay sane, by default you give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services wil…

> by default you give people the benefit of the doubt I actually tend to assume websites like HN are the NSA or at least the NSA have read access to their databases. Maybe it's my tinfoil hat tendencies but instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt I would rather not give them any data I don't mind the NSA having.

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Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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offtopic, but how'd you get an emoji in a HN comment?? (maybe it doesn't get stripped bc the flag is encoded as [U][K], two "letterlike symbols" but still it's the first time i've seen one!)

I guess it is probably because most people are using desktops/laptops to browse HN. I feel like Emoji use on QWERTY keyboards is harder/less common. It is possible though: 🇺🇳

i was referring to the fact that last time i checked, HN stripped emoji. hold on let me check:

edit: yeah, my cat got removed :/

I guess they're distinguished by unicode block: the regional indicator letters are "Enclosed Alphanumeric Supplement", and emoji are "Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs". still not sure why remove them though

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

Donations are probably better, because while that hardware is helpful, it's the ISP connections that are hard to come by. If you host a Tor exit node on your home network connection, Comcast is likely going to shut down your service for abuse/TOS violations. Having some rack space in a datacenter is far more valuable and better supported by donations.

Also, an exit node WILL use all of your bandwidth. You're going to quickly hit those 1TB caps.

When I was hosting a exit node I was getting over 50GB/day

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Since no one posted that, yet: Tor relies on the size the of its network to counteract blocks, prevent take overs, and naturally ensure stability as well as performance. You can either donate to various groups running Tor servers, the developers, or take part on your own. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Tor https://www.torservers.net/ https://www.dfri.se/donera/ https://nos-oignons.net/ https://donate.torproject.org…

The real question is the kind of liability you take on when running a tor node on a machine that "belongs" to you (for some definition of belong). Another is to find a place that will agree to power your machine and allow it to hook in to the ethernet if it runs a tor node. At any rate, running a tor node isn't as simple as running apt-get.

Is it possible to operate a TOR node through a corporate entity? The corporation assumes liability as does insurance.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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They seem to have made it their task to report in depth on every single violent crime in the country. Being from Germany and having never lived in the UK, this is weird to me. For a crime to end up on tagesschau.de (the German equivalent to bbc.co.uk/news ) it needs to be of... well... national interest. This just seems like yellow press, honestly. Or is there something I'm missing? edit: also their "reporting" on an…

They say the BBC bend to the wishes of the current government, they seem in recent years to be bending towards the Daily Mail, using fear-mongering to attract clicks and viewers, ignoring climate change protests to not put off car owners. Joining in with the newspapers by smearing anyone who speaks against the Tory party.

They say the BBC bend to the wishes of the current government

It’s easy to prove this isn’t true, by looking at its Brexit output. The BBC represents middle- and upper-middle-class London, regardless of who’s in power in Number 10, and regardless of any other part of the country.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

You can use torsocks https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

#129

Since no one posted that, yet: Tor relies on the size the of its network to counteract blocks, prevent take overs, and naturally ensure stability as well as performance. You can either donate to various groups running Tor servers, the developers, or take part on your own. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Tor https://www.torservers.net/ https://www.dfri.se/donera/ https://nos-oignons.net/ https://donate.torproject.org…

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

Both if possible. A Pi 3 can saturate its ethernet adapter (~50Mbps) running a Tor relay. It's reasonably straightforward to setup.

You shouldn't run exit nodes from a home connection due to possible abuse. If a person uses it to do something illegal you may end up with law enforcement busting down your door. Relays are safe though.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

You can do this! There exist several tor2web proxies that allow you to do this. Simply go to tor_url.onion.ws in a regular browser. Keep in mind that this only protects publishers, not those accessing the website. More info: https://www.tor2web.org/

These proxies can appear useful, but I'm just going to drop by here to say that this a particularly bad idea to spread among non-technical people.

I've seen these proxies bleed into more problematic Tor use cases among vulnerable individuals. Defaults matter, and as technical people we should assume a bit of 'do no harm' moral responsibility for people who seek our advice.

Tor Browser is painstakingly maintained to be fit for its specific purpose. If you're not authorized to install Tor Browser on a device and to emit Tor traffic on the network you're using, you generally shouldn't access Tor there.

Anyone using Tor to access resources that might get them in trouble in the country they're in should look into proper operational security with Tor Project-provided infrastructure like bridges.[1] The special purpose Tails operating system can be used with bootable USB memory on common hardware like laptops without leaving a trace.[2]

1 - https://www.torproject.org/docs/bridges.html.en

2 - https://tails.boum.org/

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