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Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I understand that. 1 - Can the same not be achieved via VPN usage? 2 - Can TOR browsers not already access the BBC in the "clearnet"? 3 - Why do I, as a UK resident, have to provide money so that someone in Vietnam can access our state news?

The license fee is not the BBC's only source of funding. Its worldwide operations are generally profitable.

That's true, most broadcasters have to also bid for broadcasting contracts which give them a-lot of revenue too if they win.

However, UK audiences tend to question the TV license if the BBC does anything out of their duty. But non-UK audiences will see ads on the site that will eventually be clicked on.

So what does the BBC do? Increase more click-bait articles on newsbeat, entertainment, brexit sections to make up for their lost UK audience that are now on other news or streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, etc.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

#73
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/history/story/2007/02/0701...

The BBC is quite subtle. It's not fake news and what they report is factual, but the choice of what facts to report makes it crystal clear that they do have an agenda. A current example: Hongkong. They have headline reporting every time there is a protest while other protests in other countries, and arguably much more significant protests, barely get a mention. This is not a coincidence. Edit: A lot of the replies to…

Everyone has an agenda, news and comments are product of people and people are inherently subjective. Moreover, much of written history, as the adage go, is documented by the victors. And even if you try to take it on you to read from broader sources and rank them by some kind of elusive objective reputation, you are still biased in trying to reconsile them with your prior system of belief about how world works.

I think it is still better to have access to the other point of view, and as one frenchman once said, even if you don't agree with a point of view, you should defend the right to be able to say it.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/history/story/2007/02/0701...

The BBC is quite subtle. It's not fake news and what they report is factual, but the choice of what facts to report makes it crystal clear that they do have an agenda. A current example: Hongkong. They have headline reporting every time there is a protest while other protests in other countries, and arguably much more significant protests, barely get a mention. This is not a coincidence. Edit: A lot of the replies to…

Are any of the other countries with significant protests also colonies of the UK until recent decades? The HK-UK history clearly influences the significance of that event for the BBC’s audience.

Do you have other examples?

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

#76
post #16

BBC World News has a similar purpose as Voice of America (VOA) and Russia Today (RT). The purpose is to deliver the viewpoint of the UK to other countries, such as Iran, Russia, China.

World News TV that you get in international hotels is a commercial arm, it's purpose is like CNN international.

World Service - mainly radio, but also TV, is to deliver a UK viewpoint to the world - traditionally "the colonies".

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The BBC is quite subtle. It's not fake news and what they report is factual, but the choice of what facts to report makes it crystal clear that they do have an agenda. A current example: Hongkong. They have headline reporting every time there is a protest while other protests in other countries, and arguably much more significant protests, barely get a mention. This is not a coincidence. Edit: A lot of the replies to…

Can you give a recent example of a significant protest that lacks a BBC news story?

I haven't said that they are not reported. It's the relative importance given that is obvious.

150+ people have died in Iraq over the last month during wide scale protests. There is an article on this on the BBC's website.

On the other hand, there is almost live coverage with embedded journalists as headline news every time a protester throws something at the HK police, or every time the HK police throws a teargas canister at protesters.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

#78
post #13

Finally a good use for my license fee! (Aside from David Attenborough documentaries, they’ve always been worth it)

Licen c e fee. 🇬🇧

offtopic, but how'd you get an emoji in a HN comment??

(maybe it doesn't get stripped bc the flag is encoded as [U][K], two "letterlike symbols" but still it's the first time i've seen one!)

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Since no one posted that, yet: Tor relies on the size the of its network to counteract blocks, prevent take overs, and naturally ensure stability as well as performance. You can either donate to various groups running Tor servers, the developers, or take part on your own. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Tor https://www.torservers.net/ https://www.dfri.se/donera/ https://nos-oignons.net/ https://donate.torproject.org…

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA?

I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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post #67

I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

You can do this in Firefox. Open about:config and search "dotonion". Toggle it. The other arrangements are left up to you.

But this will need you to start the Tor deamon separately and configure the two I guess? Not as simple as just using Tor browser, or a Tor tab in Brave...
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