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Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

rvz wrote: post #55
jonplackett wrote: post #2

Finally a good use for my license fee! (Aside from David Attenborough documentaries, they’ve always been worth it)

> Finally a good use for my license fee! While I agree that no news corporation should ever be censored and should be accessible to all including the "dark-web", the level of clickbait / fake-news level content on the BBC website is getting ridiculous in some areas and contradicts with their duty to be fair, impartial and balanced as the only UK state broadcaster privileged with a royal charter. Apart from the actual…

I didn't read their domestic news section, but their world news section is pretty interesting if not contrarian. And I'd say the tor node is for the world news section as people around the world aren't all that interested in british domestic news.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by zer0tonin »

class4behavior wrote: post #97
blaser-waffle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

>Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? Well, I've only linked to communities listed by the Tor Project itself. Otherwise, the same way you would check whether HN or your local tea store is the NSA. You do your own research, run your own risk analysis, and if you want to stay sane, by default you give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services wil…

> by default you give people the benefit of the doubt

I actually tend to assume websites like HN are the NSA or at least the NSA have read access to their databases. Maybe it's my tinfoil hat tendencies but instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt I would rather not give them any data I don't mind the NSA having.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

xeeeeeeeeeeenu wrote: post #103
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that bad, per se ? In practice some sites drop Tor connections, and localisations come through wrong, but that doesn't seem to be why you said "no".

It actually reduces the security because exit nodes are likely to MITM you.

So install an extension to block non-HTTPS pages and you're golden

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by GordonS »

rvz wrote: post #55
jonplackett wrote: post #2

Finally a good use for my license fee! (Aside from David Attenborough documentaries, they’ve always been worth it)

> Finally a good use for my license fee! While I agree that no news corporation should ever be censored and should be accessible to all including the "dark-web", the level of clickbait / fake-news level content on the BBC website is getting ridiculous in some areas and contradicts with their duty to be fair, impartial and balanced as the only UK state broadcaster privileged with a royal charter. Apart from the actual…

I agree strongly with this - there has been a slow but steady decline in the quality of BBC news content over the past decade or so.

It's not even confined to clickbait, the articles are getting seriously dumbed down too - you'd think many of them were written for children!

And it's not even confined to online - the news section on Radio 1 is an absolute joke these days - if the online content is dumbed down, then this is seriously dumbed down to the point where you'd think it was for pre-school children!

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by apecat »

andrewaylett wrote: post #37

I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

You absolutely should use Tor for regular non-logged in browsing if you can bear the slowness. Exit bandwidth is limited, but I'd say being a needle in the haystack of people who actually need the privacy is a net benefit.

I'd just really advise against touching Tor with a regular browser. For starters, you shouldn't browse Tor without blocking JavaScript by default. Hogging the bandwidth needed for video is also where 'normal use' turns problematic for the people who actually rely on Tor for personal safety.

Tor Browser is painstakingly maintained to make it suitable for Tor. Even Brave's Tor mode is more fit for purpose than proxying Tor manually.

I'd also argue that it's better for the anonymity of all to use a browser prepared to avoid fingerprinting.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by bb123 »

uryga wrote: post #78
jen729w wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Licen c e fee. 🇬🇧

offtopic, but how'd you get an emoji in a HN comment?? (maybe it doesn't get stripped bc the flag is encoded as [U][K], two "letterlike symbols" but still it's the first time i've seen one!)

I guess it is probably because most people are using desktops/laptops to browse HN. I feel like Emoji use on QWERTY keyboards is harder/less common. It is possible though: 🇺🇳

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by ktm5j »

zer0tonin wrote: post #112
class4behavior wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? Well, I've only linked to communities listed by the Tor Project itself. Otherwise, the same way you would check whether HN or your local tea store is the NSA. You do your own research, run your own risk analysis, and if you want to stay sane, by default you give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services wil…

> by default you give people the benefit of the doubt I actually tend to assume websites like HN are the NSA or at least the NSA have read access to their databases. Maybe it's my tinfoil hat tendencies but instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt I would rather not give them any data I don't mind the NSA having.

Everyone has read access to HN.. there are no private messages that I'm aware of, anyone can search this site using google

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by andai »

zer0tonin wrote: post #112
class4behavior wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? Well, I've only linked to communities listed by the Tor Project itself. Otherwise, the same way you would check whether HN or your local tea store is the NSA. You do your own research, run your own risk analysis, and if you want to stay sane, by default you give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services wil…

> by default you give people the benefit of the doubt I actually tend to assume websites like HN are the NSA or at least the NSA have read access to their databases. Maybe it's my tinfoil hat tendencies but instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt I would rather not give them any data I don't mind the NSA having.

I think the HN database is available publicly for download.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

zer0tonin wrote: post #112
class4behavior wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? Well, I've only linked to communities listed by the Tor Project itself. Otherwise, the same way you would check whether HN or your local tea store is the NSA. You do your own research, run your own risk analysis, and if you want to stay sane, by default you give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services wil…

> by default you give people the benefit of the doubt I actually tend to assume websites like HN are the NSA or at least the NSA have read access to their databases. Maybe it's my tinfoil hat tendencies but instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt I would rather not give them any data I don't mind the NSA having.

Err, all the NSA needs to do to get access to our HN posts is scrape the site. National Security Letters are probably more effort to arrange than a copy of BeautifulSoup. I hope ...
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