I think it's no question that psychedelics are mind opening. But maybe a psychosis is something that happens to an open mind too. Personally I explained some mildly strange visual effects/thoughts (long after my acid trips) to the fact that I know what's possible to happen with my mind and my mind knows it too. And only for that reason that weird place is just a another new option now. If I wouldn't have experienced them, my mind may never come up with them.
Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been interested in taking a guided "tour" into DMT but uhh, maybe not now.
I recommend asking yourself if an idiot would do what you are going to do. Do the opposite. I took lsd by myself, with no one home at 5pm. And only while the effects started to take place did I begin researching the effects. I did not know that you can't sleep when on acid for instance. So maybe don't listen to me. I'm also not so hot mentally, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
How not to use psychedelics, or any psychoactive substance.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recommend asking yourself if an idiot would do what you are going to do. Do the opposite. I took lsd by myself, with no one home at 5pm. And only while the effects started to take place did I begin researching the effects. I did not know that you can't sleep when on acid for instance. So maybe don't listen to me. I'm also not so hot mentally, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
You essentially did everything wrong. I'm a bit amazed actually.
I'm sorry but that is funny.
Checklist for a first badtrip.
1) be alone. 2) take it too late to sleep at a reasonable hour. 3) start researching only after taking it.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
This claim isn't obvious at all (let alone its converse being intellectually dishonest). You're acting as if justice and law enforcement is made up of solely either stupid or nefarious people.
It is Congress, which makes the laws, that is made up of stupid/nefarious individuals.
Or well-meaning but with catastrophic, negative effects for some people.
Emergent systems are absolutely a thing; and even when they’re not, some people’s lives can be truly ruined by punishment beyond their measure.
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#65Perhaps similar (I had this for months): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal_de_debarquement
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#66I thought that there was just one clinic that had most of the HPPD cases and that was in Israel and specialized in giving people a way to get out of the IDF.
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#67Alright, I'll bite. I developed HPPD in 2017, and I've been seeing unusual things for a bit over 2 years. The HPPD was triggered by dropping on the order of 1000-1400 micrograms of LSD - and for context a reasonable dose was 50 micrograms. This was way too much, and I fried for a few days. I'm not sure when I came down because HPPD decided to show up and it took me a while to realize that the HPPD was, well, persiste…
I have never heard Tinnitus described as a neurological condition. I had pretty bad Tinnitus as a result of a jaw injury. It has gradually faded but it made sleeping difficult for a very long time.
I'm on the run so can't respond in depth, but check out ototoxic drugs which attack the auditory nerve. SSRIs may not be directly ototoxic but numerous studies have shown that sertraline can cause tinnitus, due to the role that serotonin plays in filtering audio signals. So there are multiple causes of tinnitus, and the impact of SSRIs is partially known but not fully understood.
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#68So I wonder: psychedelics make you more likely to believe woo, and more likely to have certain classes of visual hallucinations. But some people believe woo without taking psychedelics, and some people have those same visual hallucinations without taking psychedelics. Interesting, I believe it and have always wondered about this. I think people's sensory experiences vary wildly by nature, but we have no access to the…
> Your athletic ability can vary from Usain Bolt to completely uncoordinated; some people have photographic memories (e.g. Lebron James apparently); some people can factor large numbers in their heads (computation), or recite huge strings of digits (non-episodic memory). I'm going to quibble with you. When you say that individual humans vary widely, you're mostly assuming a baseline scale of typical human variation.…
I see what you're saying, but he is claiming that some people might literally see auras around other people.
Or the other person sees a literal grid in her visual field all the time and projects meaning onto it.
And that's within normal human variation. Sure you can imagine that bats or octopuses have much weirder subjective experiences.
But it's still not something that's widely recognized. They would likely say if you literally see auras then you must be a crazy, non-functioning person, when really it's just a quirk of your perception that is invisible to everyone else.
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#69So I wonder: psychedelics make you more likely to believe woo, and more likely to have certain classes of visual hallucinations. But some people believe woo without taking psychedelics, and some people have those same visual hallucinations without taking psychedelics. Interesting, I believe it and have always wondered about this. I think people's sensory experiences vary wildly by nature, but we have no access to the…
> Although I can also conjure some low-level hallucinations when "looking at the back of my eyelids" when falling asleep. I imagine that's pretty normal/common since low light is sort of like sensory deprivation. Me too, and it's definitely a result of taking psychedelics. I quite like it. I suspect that I could have always made those CEVs appear, but I didn't "know how" until taking psychedelics. In other words, I h…
> Me too, and it's definitely a result of taking psychedelics. I quite like it. I suspect that I could have always made those CEVs appear, but I didn't "know how" until taking psychedelics.
Me too and it's probably not a result of taking psychedelics; as I've never tried them recreationally. I did, however, have vivid hallucinations as a result of Nitrous oxide at the dentist office as a child.
I don't think I see floaters, as my vision doesn't require correction. They also seem unrelated to afterimage.
I thought these were more common, but after some research, most people only see these after applying some pressure, such as rubbing their eyes. Interesting stuff.
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#70I have always steered clear of psychedelics. I know some people are super into legalization, but I wager it's a bit irresponsible considering we barely understand their long (and short, for that matter) -term effects. There's some evidence where psychedelics (particularly LSD) may have triggered schizophrenia in some patients[1]. Musician Daniel Johnston (he passed away a few months ago) is a notable case. [1] https:…
>may have triggered schizophrenia in some patients
The same is true of marijuana, although the key word is triggered, and not necessarily caused. (Obviously some debate about this)
It's not randomly distributed among the general population, which suggests it mainly affects persons already predisposed.
Black American teen boys seem especially at risk, in a population that otherwise sees symptoms present in the early 30's.
But the striking thing to me, is that it typically happens with the very first dose, is acute onset, and is irreversible.