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It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

#11
Bill Joy used a control character:

    Second attempt was lower-case with control characters, and succeeded in 
    around 40 minutes.
    
    There's a control character in it ;)
    
    Because of the outpouring of negativity about these disclosures, I am 
    reluctant to post the actual password without the user's consent, since 
    he's still alive. If anyone knows Bill, and can contact him, please ask 
    for permission.
https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2019-October/019124.h...

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #10
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, we've put a control character in the title above. (Submitted title was "It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson"... also a category error to compare a password to Ken.)

Could be simplified to "Bill Joy's password had a control character", since no one had announced a thought that Ken's password had one, so the misdirection is pointless distraction.

https://twitter.com/TychoTithonus/status/1185211446537273344

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

#13
post #5

So much interesting content is locked in these oldschool mailing lists, how does a modern-day web user get into them?

Like the rest of us, get browsing! https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/ Might as well add a disclaimer: back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit. A lot of shit. But then once in a while, you find those little nuggets that made the whole shit-shifting worthwhile. Useful exercise in patience for beginner webbers maybe.

> back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit.

"back in the day"?

Edit: no, I meant, it hasn't changed since then. Sturgeon's Law still applies today.

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #5

So much interesting content is locked in these oldschool mailing lists, how does a modern-day web user get into them?

Like the rest of us, get browsing! https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/ Might as well add a disclaimer: back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit. A lot of shit. But then once in a while, you find those little nuggets that made the whole shit-shifting worthwhile. Useful exercise in patience for beginner webbers maybe.

Google can't monetize this content so it ends up on page 5 behind all the irrelevant SEO links.

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the rest of us, get browsing! https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/ Might as well add a disclaimer: back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit. A lot of shit. But then once in a while, you find those little nuggets that made the whole shit-shifting worthwhile. Useful exercise in patience for beginner webbers maybe.

> back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit. "back in the day"? Edit: no, I meant, it hasn't changed since then. Sturgeon's Law still applies today.

Either way

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #2

The current title ("It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson") I assume is in reference to Ken's password being cracked two weeks ago. The title is not correct. Ken's password was cracked. Bill Joy's password has now also been cracked, but not disclosed w/o getting permission from Joy to do so first. Discussion from two weeks ago - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21202905 Message posting /etc/password entrie…

The title is in reference to which password contained a control character. It is truncated, but not incorrect.

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Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

#17
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be simplified to "Bill Joy's password had a control character", since no one had announced a thought that Ken's password had one, so the misdirection is pointless distraction.

https://twitter.com/TychoTithonus/status/1185211446537273344

Ah, a link to that tweet in the first place would've made a lot more sense.

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the rest of us, get browsing! https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/ Might as well add a disclaimer: back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit. A lot of shit. But then once in a while, you find those little nuggets that made the whole shit-shifting worthwhile. Useful exercise in patience for beginner webbers maybe.

> back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit. "back in the day"? Edit: no, I meant, it hasn't changed since then. Sturgeon's Law still applies today.

I did not know that it's "day" not "days". Not a native English speaker and have always been saying it "days". Thank you for correcting me!

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #5

So much interesting content is locked in these oldschool mailing lists, how does a modern-day web user get into them?

You need an email account in order to join a mailing list, so get one of those. Your ISP probably gives you one, but you can also use one of the more obscure email providers like yahoo or gmail if you want. I'm a fan of fastmail on my own domain.

Once you have an email address, this content is now available to you! Most mailing lists are free and easy to subscribe to.

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