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It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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The current title ("It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson") I assume is in reference to Ken's password being cracked two weeks ago. The title is not correct. Ken's password was cracked. Bill Joy's password has now also been cracked, but not disclosed w/o getting permission from Joy to do so first.

Discussion from two weeks ago - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21202905

Message posting /etc/password entries - https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2019-October/018854.h...

Message showing Ken's cracked password - https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2019-October/018917.h...

Message showing Bill Joy's hashed password - https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2019-October/018955.h...

A correct title would be "Bill Joy's password has now also been cracked."

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #2

The current title ("It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson") I assume is in reference to Ken's password being cracked two weeks ago. The title is not correct. Ken's password was cracked. Bill Joy's password has now also been cracked, but not disclosed w/o getting permission from Joy to do so first. Discussion from two weeks ago - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21202905 Message posting /etc/password entrie…

The title is in reference to which password contained a control character. It is truncated, but not incorrect.

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #2

The current title ("It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson") I assume is in reference to Ken's password being cracked two weeks ago. The title is not correct. Ken's password was cracked. Bill Joy's password has now also been cracked, but not disclosed w/o getting permission from Joy to do so first. Discussion from two weeks ago - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21202905 Message posting /etc/password entrie…

I thought it was referring to the fact the author found his expectation was the opposite of reality -- he first assumed it would have been Ken, not Bill Joy, to have a control character in his password. But Bill was the one.

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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So much interesting content is locked in these oldschool mailing lists, how does a modern-day web user get into them?

Like the rest of us, get browsing! https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/

Might as well add a disclaimer: back in the days, in order to find the gold nuggets on the web, you had to shift through shit. A lot of shit. But then once in a while, you find those little nuggets that made the whole shit-shifting worthwhile. Useful exercise in patience for beginner webbers maybe.

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #2

The current title ("It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson") I assume is in reference to Ken's password being cracked two weeks ago. The title is not correct. Ken's password was cracked. Bill Joy's password has now also been cracked, but not disclosed w/o getting permission from Joy to do so first. Discussion from two weeks ago - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21202905 Message posting /etc/password entrie…

The title is in reference to which password contained a control character. It is truncated, but not incorrect.

Ok, we've put a control character in the title above.

(Submitted title was "It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson"... also a category error to compare a password to Ken.)

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The title is in reference to which password contained a control character. It is truncated, but not incorrect.

Ok, we've put a control character in the title above. (Submitted title was "It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson"... also a category error to compare a password to Ken.)

I suppose you could construct a sentence like "it was bill joys password, not Ken Thompson, which unlocked the safe" in response to a (exaggerated) story about Ken picking a lock.

Re: It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson's, that had a control character

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The title is in reference to which password contained a control character. It is truncated, but not incorrect.

Ok, we've put a control character in the title above. (Submitted title was "It was Bill Joy's password, not Ken Thompson"... also a category error to compare a password to Ken.)

Could be simplified to "Bill Joy's password had a control character", since no one had announced a thought that Ken's password had one, so the misdirection is pointless distraction.
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