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Out of curiosity, what about the things he did do you "hate"?
Love - revealed to us that our constitutional rights were being absolutely trampled to death. Hate - revealed to the world endless amounts of national security data that was not directly relevant to these constitutional encroachments.
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“the ultimate aim of government is not to rule, or restrain by fear, nor to exact obedience, but to free every man from fear that he may live in all possible security... In fact the true aim of government is liberty.” ― Baruch Spinoza
That makes no sense. Perfect liberty and perfect security are mutually exclusive.
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There is a big difference between Observation (which is what Snowden is doing) and Analysis (followed by Solutions). It's not healthy to confuse the two. Snowden is pointing out an issue. And he has done it with courage that I massively respect. You hardly see it these days. And that makes it anxiety and fear inducing, as the solutions are unknown. But think of it this way - tomorrow someone might hand you a diagnosi…
Bull. Shit. > If you read the history (and these days there are tons of resources) this sequence of events (of overreach) has unfolded a thousand times. There are a whole bunch programmes that have been shutdown because one group or the other got carried away or did damage. There are many such programs, says you, and yet you fail to name even one. There has never been this level of government overreach -- if only bec…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-Observation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Camelot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Abandoned_military_pr...
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"Run the media" in this context doesn't mean there's some CIA commissar approving every article or broadcast. What it means generally is that access to "leaks", scoops, "anonymous government sources", "high level intelligence officials", etc is predicated on uncritically toeing the "intelligence community" line. Failing to do so means no more access, and you will be replaced by someone else. Take the lessons of Manuf…
Any leaker is going to have their POV and motivations. But I don't see any reason to belive that it constitutes 'controlling the media'.
Let's not forget Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange who are currently unable to give interviews because of what the United States is doing to them.
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Love - revealed to us that our constitutional rights were being absolutely trampled to death. Hate - revealed to the world endless amounts of national security data that was not directly relevant to these constitutional encroachments.
> revealed to the world endless amounts of national security data that was not directly relevant to these constitutional encroachments. How were those documents not still incredibly valuable and shed a lot of information on the functioning of the American Empire. US citizens should just be interested in their constitutional rights, but also in the absolute shit-show that is their foreign policy. Sadly those insights…
And releasing this data to foreign governments (which some are also potential enemies) is the way to do it? Yeah, bravo...
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...heavily covered in the media because he or she aligns with the orginization's goals (sell headlines) is not 'fake'. "Heavily covered in the media", that's an interesting criterion for "whistleblower", and I'm sure it would serve someone's interests if it got any traction. Also "critical thinking" is now defined as "believing what the war media tell us"? This would be Orwellian, if it weren't so silly.
You are misrepresenting what was said. "Heavily covered in the media" wasn’t cited as a criterion for a whistleblower. Actually to be more precise, it was cited as a criterion—by you—when you claimed that as a hallmark of “fake” whistleblowers.
The whistleblower protections that Snowden did not bother to use are the same ones currently providing the spark for the impeachment proceedings in the US House of Representatives. Really wish he had gone that route instead of the one he chose - and we'll never know for sure how pure his intentions were/are because of it.
HN doesn't seem to be much better than reddit in this regard
Theses guys just shared naked pics of peoples ...
This kind of power corrupt ...
There is a real lesson here about just how cavalier the American government - and to some degree the public - is about civil liberties, but that isn't the biggest problem. The problem here isn't even so much the government is being shady - that has happened before, it will happen again. I can understand people not feeling threatened by constant snooping even though I disagree. To me the real problem is how effectivel…
There is a big difference between Observation (which is what Snowden is doing) and Analysis (followed by Solutions). It's not healthy to confuse the two. Snowden is pointing out an issue. And he has done it with courage that I massively respect. You hardly see it these days. And that makes it anxiety and fear inducing, as the solutions are unknown. But think of it this way - tomorrow someone might hand you a diagnosi…
The problem is how to be sure the line get not crossed ?