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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by deca6cda37d0 »

hobofan wrote: post #350
askafriend wrote: post #21

I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

> I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. I don't see any reason why one would trust Apple more than a random third party dev. To me they are one and the same.

16 years of managing personal information and credit card details of 100’s of millions of people. Without any known data breach.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by driverdan »

cannonedhamster wrote: post #336
m1sta_ wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. As an android user and ex apple fanboy, I very much miss the relative safety of the iOS app store.

Well you can always go back. Just make sure you can afford it and all the dongles you'll need.

Not if you actually want to own your device (have root).

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by pier25 »

I recently uploaded an update of a macOS app to the MAS. Apple rejected it saying that I needed to remove some entitlements that were not used. Of course I needed those entitlements but Apple didn't test the app properly.

Anyway I answered their rejection with the reasons why I needed those entitlements. Silence for 2 days. I finally asked for an appeal to the review board and in 1 hour the update was accepted and available in the MAS.

We lost 3 days because either Apple's automatic reviewing system failed, or their human reviewers failed.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by semiotagonal »

jldugger wrote: post #331
Someone1234 wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In context though it is still Apple's issue: > After releasing the Catalina Golden Master build to developers on October the 3rd, we immediately finished fixing any new crash and issue we could find over the weekend. In our opinion, leaving developer just four (4!) days over a weekend with a public release on October the 7th is not very professional. While we still updated our applications in time, Apple did not revi…

Catalina had been available to the public for testing since like WWDC; unless these were late breaks only found in GM, it's a tough pill to swallow that these urgent bugs couldn't have been addressed before GM shipped.

Maybe, but prior to the "Golden Master" release are you really testing your stuff, or Apple's?

Leaving such a small window between Apple getting its act together with the GM, and a hard deadline for third parties to get their act together, is rough.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by shkkmo »

99052882514569 wrote: post #275
wccrawford wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article they posted says that "lead" was the original form, and "lede" was introduced in 2008.

As a standalone word, yes. The expression is, nevertheless, "bury the lede", and always* has been. * since the 1970s when it first surfaced.

Do you have a reference for this? The linked article seems pretty clear that it is used both ways and "lead" is the original

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by zepto »

fjabre wrote: post #355
askafriend wrote: post #21

I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

That's basically like saying you prefer to live under a totalitarian regime than a democracy because: security. Humans gladly trade their freedom for security as your comment implies, you are comfortable with that. The web is, or at least was in part, a democracy. Apple is clearly a dictatorship. Trust doesn't really come into it. You trust your user data to 3rd parties every single day using apps that very publicly…

This is an absurd comparison that makes zero sense on the face of it.

People don’t give up any freedom when they choose Apple products.

It’s a feature of a democracy that you can decide to contract any third parties you like to carry out professional services - such as verifying software quality, or protecting the privacy of your data.

Anyone who doesn’t like Apple’s services can simply buy Android, which explicitly offers openness as a differentiator.

The comparison between a managed software store and an authoritarian regime makes no sense at all precisely because you can leave.

The software company behind the original posting has chosen to leave.

Presumably you have chosen to leave or never enter.

The only authoritarians in this scenario are the people who wish to use government power to deny others the right to choose the service Apple provides.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by ravedave5 »

jldugger wrote: post #331
Someone1234 wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In context though it is still Apple's issue: > After releasing the Catalina Golden Master build to developers on October the 3rd, we immediately finished fixing any new crash and issue we could find over the weekend. In our opinion, leaving developer just four (4!) days over a weekend with a public release on October the 7th is not very professional. While we still updated our applications in time, Apple did not revi…

Catalina had been available to the public for testing since like WWDC; unless these were late breaks only found in GM, it's a tough pill to swallow that these urgent bugs couldn't have been addressed before GM shipped.

I'm not with theis company - my company also had major issues with Catalina. There were major bugs released in each beta. Several were fixed without any release notes mentioning so. We wasted several days of an engineers time tracking down an issue that was fixed in a new beta with no mention. Incredibly frustrating.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

eloisant wrote: post #339
john-radio wrote: post #332

This press release contains a lot of trivial errors. > Compatible Scanner (in the header menu ) should be "Compatibility" > not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries "salaries" > it is not provide to provide not "viable"? > we think a paid upgrade is fair for continuously developing, improvements, and support "for continuous development, improvements, and support" > support a product indefinetly for free "in…

The company is from Germany, possibly a single-person company. He/she's not a native speaker, might not have access to a native speaker for proofreading and a spell checker wouldn't pick up frontier vs barrier.

Ignore the misspellings like "salleries",

"it is not provide to provide free updates forever" doesn't make sense in any language.

The TL;DR is the first thing you see on the page. They author didn't proofread the first paragraph.

* TL;DR

each manual update review by Apple causes delay and drama

AppStore does not support paid upgrades, only new App, in-App purchase or subscriptions

Apple takes 30% and that is not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries

it is not provide to provide free updates forever

if you purchased our application this year we provide a direct license, if you had it

significantly longer, we think a paid upgrade is fair for continuously developing, improvements, and support

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by vxNsr »

john-radio wrote: post #332

This press release contains a lot of trivial errors. > Compatible Scanner (in the header menu ) should be "Compatibility" > not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries "salaries" > it is not provide to provide not "viable"? > we think a paid upgrade is fair for continuously developing, improvements, and support "for continuous development, improvements, and support" > support a product indefinetly for free "in…

It's a german dev using EU-english which at this point has developed into almost it's own dialect of english.
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