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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by jldugger »

Someone1234 wrote: post #231
Razengan wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> instead rejected them first for a crash (sigh!) As a user, I'm glad Apple did that. As a developer, the one thing that I do dislike about Apple, is the dismal state of their documentation on how to actually take advantage of all their platforms' features. I have to begrudgingly admit that their nemesis Microsoft has always been way ahead in that department.

In context though it is still Apple's issue: > After releasing the Catalina Golden Master build to developers on October the 3rd, we immediately finished fixing any new crash and issue we could find over the weekend. In our opinion, leaving developer just four (4!) days over a weekend with a public release on October the 7th is not very professional. While we still updated our applications in time, Apple did not revi…

Catalina had been available to the public for testing since like WWDC; unless these were late breaks only found in GM, it's a tough pill to swallow that these urgent bugs couldn't have been addressed before GM shipped.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by john-radio »

This press release contains a lot of trivial errors.

> Compatible Scanner (in the header menu)

should be "Compatibility"

> not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries

"salaries"

> it is not provide to provide

not "viable"?

> we think a paid upgrade is fair for continuously developing, improvements, and support

"for continuous development, improvements, and support"

> support a product indefinetly for free

"indefinitely"

> It creates an artificial frontier between users and developers.

"frontier" - word choice. "barrier"?

> Developer can not inform users

"The developer" (or "A")

I'm not going to keep doing this because I'm sure that this comment would grow too long.

It doesn't hurt to run a spell checker over your public facing material, you know. I'm open to hearing this developer's criticism of Apple, but given the lack of effort in publishing this simple press release, I'm not exactly opposed to this additional "frontier" standing between their software and my less-tech-savvy friends' and colleagues' Mac computers.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by cannonedhamster »

rhinoceraptor wrote: post #208
onion2k wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Containers are not a magic shield that protects you from all attacks. You should still be wary of what you're running even with the additional protection they offer. For example - https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2019/q1/119

They could be (and are on Illumos and FreeBSD) if only they were designed with that from the start. Linux has always made the mistake of not designing things to be safe and secure from the outset (cgroups/namespaces, btrfs, etc.).

BSD is also an application desert compared to GNU/linux. It's always going to be a scale between user desires and security needs. BSD is rock solid but moves glacially slow. Most devs need more speed than that. Most users demand it. There's a reason despite the elitist attitude the Arch Illuminati take that people want Arch. It's a really stable bleeding edge release.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by robomartin »

dijit wrote: post #11
robomartin wrote: post #3

We left the App Store behind years ago after just getting sick of Apple’s bs and other issues. Could not be happier. Web apps are far easier to deal with, we have full control and for our purposes it ends up being a better multi-platform experience for our users. Not for everyone, of course.

Quite ironic, given that Jobs' original intention was just that[0] [0]: https://9to5mac.com/2011/10/21/jobs-original-vision-for-the-...

That's interesting.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by cannonedhamster »

m1sta_ wrote: post #25
askafriend wrote: post #21

I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

Yep. As an android user and ex apple fanboy, I very much miss the relative safety of the iOS app store.

Well you can always go back. Just make sure you can afford it and all the dongles you'll need.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by Tronno »

Humdeee wrote: post #280
jen729w wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve also stopped “check[ing] weekly for new things”, but that’s because I don’t need any new things! Do you? I don’t have Instagram but I imagine it’s a bit like the App Store. I’m waiting somewhere. I’m bored. I know, I’ll check for a shiny thing. Oh, no shiny thing. That was disappointing. To compare, do you go to the internet regularly and check for new things? I don’t think this is the App Store’s fault. It’s no…

> (~== Not necessarily equal to. Did I just invent that?) Instead of inventing new operators in your sentences, you can also just stick with plain English

On HN I occasionally see programming conventions used in otherwise normal writing. E.g. "at $big_corp we like to use $process".

I can't stand it. It's the linguistic equivalent to wearing a bowtie and pocket protector.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by cannonedhamster »

tzfld wrote: post #152
kevingadd wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing this isn't what you meant, but the endgame of "Apple, please make things hard for developers" is there's no apps left for you to use that aren't made by Apple, because they made it too hard for developers. A balance has to be struck somewhere. Developers increasingly do not like where Apple is placing the balance (generally on the side of 'go screw yourself, time to rework your app for our latest guideli…

Large majority of Apple users do not need anything else than what Apple already made.

Which is why the store makes so little of their money right? Your opinion is directly against their profit data.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by eloisant »

john-radio wrote: post #332

This press release contains a lot of trivial errors. > Compatible Scanner (in the header menu ) should be "Compatibility" > not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries "salaries" > it is not provide to provide not "viable"? > we think a paid upgrade is fair for continuously developing, improvements, and support "for continuous development, improvements, and support" > support a product indefinetly for free "in…

The company is from Germany, possibly a single-person company.

He/she's not a native speaker, might not have access to a native speaker for proofreading and a spell checker wouldn't pick up frontier vs barrier.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by thanatropism »

john-radio wrote: post #332

This press release contains a lot of trivial errors. > Compatible Scanner (in the header menu ) should be "Compatibility" > not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries "salaries" > it is not provide to provide not "viable"? > we think a paid upgrade is fair for continuously developing, improvements, and support "for continuous development, improvements, and support" > support a product indefinetly for free "in…

Come off it.

> I'm open to hearing this developer's criticism of Apple

You're clearly not.

And while it's common not being open to considering something because something ticks you off as not credible, the effort to which you seem to have gotten to point out some typos is -- in the best interpretation -- puzzling.

Even a stickler for misspellings would just have commented "This is so badly written I can't take it seriously". There's something else going on.

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