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Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

smbowner wrote: post #153
clSTophEjUdRanu wrote: post #123

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Reality winner is only serving 5 years and she showed good faith. Ellsberg won in court and served 0 years. If Snowden weren't a coward he could be there in person right now.

"With that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are!" - POTUS Obviously this doesn't apply directly to Snowden. I would be worried about a fair trial in this type of political climate as well. I mean, it's not the US has ever inappropriately applied the judiciary to falsely imprison a man before!

The act of fleeing made it harder for himself. Had he not fled overseas and really did attempt to follow proper whisleblower procedure he would most likely be a free man today.

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Post by avgDev »

MrGLaDOS wrote: post #126
yodsanklai wrote: post #102

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I really like Joe Rogan, and the format of its podcast. I don't know other medias where they let people speak for three hours. I was suspicious the first time I listened to him. I thought, can this beefy archetypical MMA dude say anything interesting? actually he can. He's at ease with all types of guests, he just seems to be an outspoken, honest guy. I agree that he tends to bring up his favorite topics all the time…

I am sure there are many others, but these three shows feature long-form interviews which feature interesting guests: The Ezra Klein Show - Ezra Klein Making sense podcast - Sam Harris 80000 hours podcast - Rob Wiblin [1] https://www.vox.com/ezra-klein-show-podcast [2] https://samharris.org/podcast/ [3] https://80000hours.org/podcast/

Sam Harris is definitely decent, and the podcast is usually pretty long. Very thought provoking. I recommend giving it a listen.

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Post by skyyler »

arielserafini wrote: post #217
hanklazard wrote: post #107

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Narduar is my favorite example of a master interviewer. Watch him leave Pharrell speechless multiple times (starting around the 5:15 mark is a good example). This guy does his homework better than anyone. https://youtu.be/5RKbSi87J5Q

His researching skills are indeed impressive, but I feel like he's a bit "loud" in his personality/character and that can take some attention away from the interviewee.

In his interviews he really doesn't draw attention away from the interviewee. You're right about him having a strong personality but it's obvious to me that he tries very hard to never outshine the person he's interviewing.

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Post by oiasdjfoiasd »

lawn wrote: post #68
senorjazz wrote: post #44

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> I've not run across one yet that wasn't well-reasoned, Then you cannot listen to many. Joe speaks so much bollox with an authoritative air that if you didn't know the subject you would think that Joe did, when many many times he clearly does not. I agree they are interesting when he lets the guest speak (even if completely disagree with them) or it is on something Joe does know about / has researched. But that is f…

He even does this in an area he should be knowledgeable in: MMA. For example how he went on how you should destroy yourself in training, and always go 110%, while his guest (I can't remember who, maybe Firaz Zahabi the coach of GSP) said the exact opposite.

yeah, no.

i've never heard him say anything like this. i've also watched the entire Firaz episode.

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Post by Ididntdothis »

Mirioron wrote: post #248
Ididntdothis wrote: post #240

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I guess that makes sense but if you take into account technological capabilities then the next overreach will almost always be the biggest because the technology makes larger and larger scale possible.

And this is why we need to care more and more about this issue as a society.

True. With current and soon to be tech we can build surveillance much more pervasive than what the book 1984 describes. It feels like it’s almost inevitable for this to happen.

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Post by Timpy »

pennaMan wrote: post #258
KnMn wrote: post #131

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Oh, man. I completely disagree. I feel like he just talks and talks about whatever he wants to talk about with almost no regard for whether his technical language is being understood or if he's dominating the discussion or anything like that. I don't think I've seen him develop a natural rapport with anyone or even make a firm, memorable point in an interview. I'll always be grateful for his leaks but over 2.5 hours…

You'll love the John Carmack episode then :)

I genuinely did love the John Carmack episode. I'm sensing a pattern here.

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Post by sucrose »

mr_overalls wrote: post #177
0x445442 wrote: post #150

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We also live in a time when the CIA and FBI has been trying to remove a duly elected POTUS for the past three years. Why? because they think they know better than the unwashed masses.

It's incredible to me that someone can be this willfully blind. POTUS has been the subject of multiple investigations because he has a long and ongoing history of doing incredibly shady things - money laundering, tax evasion, consorting with Russian mafiya figures, _openly_ soliciting interference in American elections from Russia. And now we know he's done the same with Ukraine.

(Off-topic) Does anyone know why `[flagged]` posts are censored instead of hidden? I often have to use web archives to view them.

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Post by sjwright »

jessaustin wrote: post #253
streb-lo wrote: post #178

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Well we could strive for a base level of critical thinking, something clearly missing from your statement. A whistleblower that is heavily covered in the media because he or she aligns with the orginization's goals (sell headlines) is not 'fake'. A whistleblower blowing the whistle on a hierarchy unable to directly fire him will also, not surprisingly, not lose his job.

...heavily covered in the media because he or she aligns with the orginization's goals (sell headlines) is not 'fake'. "Heavily covered in the media", that's an interesting criterion for "whistleblower", and I'm sure it would serve someone's interests if it got any traction. Also "critical thinking" is now defined as "believing what the war media tell us"? This would be Orwellian, if it weren't so silly.

You are misrepresenting what was said. "Heavily covered in the media" wasn’t cited as a criterion for a whistleblower. Actually to be more precise, it was cited as a criterion—by you—when you claimed that as a hallmark of “fake” whistleblowers.
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