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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs.

As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers.

As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Apple's popularity is over-hyped and manufactured by PR teams same like KPOP. Company ONLY cares for money, nothing else. Worst part of it is selling security as feature. As it is mentioned in last few weeks somewhere here, Chinese users data is being managed by Chinese firm from last year but apple announced it in last month SILENTELY. Sadly nobody wants to talk against apple. You get downvoted immediately. http://v…

Every company out there cares for money lot more than anything else. Heck why company even Presidents and Congress cares more about taking other people's money.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I completely understand why developers would find the restrictions of the App Store ridiculous, time consuming, expensive, and frustrating. But as a user, whenever I need an application, I always check to see if it's available on the App Store first. Because I can trust the App Store.

I first check brew...

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

Yep. As an android user and ex apple fanboy, I very much miss the relative safety of the iOS app store.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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As a user, I am pretty happy about most of the negative points listed in this article. Yes, manual reviews are my firewall against too much scamming. I dont want app providers to notify me about their upcoming company party. It is already fishy enough that some app providers use their own notification system to push ads. And dont get me started on paying for updates! What comes next, paying for firmware updates for d…

Paying for updates has been the standard software model for ages, and with good reason. It still takes money to update and add new features. It still takes time. To some extent new users can pay for this, but then developers have to severely limit the time spent on updates in order to nod spend too much, or they risk not even making a profit on the first version. That is why most "big" software packages these days ar…

And Apple taking 30% of that... for what? Payment processing is a 4% thing. It’s in the app developers interest to make it not have errors. It’s just for access to the market. That is the only value Apple truly brings, outside of the brand and a privacy commitment

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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As a user, I am pretty happy about most of the negative points listed in this article. Yes, manual reviews are my firewall against too much scamming. I dont want app providers to notify me about their upcoming company party. It is already fishy enough that some app providers use their own notification system to push ads. And dont get me started on paying for updates! What comes next, paying for firmware updates for d…

> And dont get me started on paying for updates! I think this really depends on implementation. Paying for bugfixes? No, thanks. Paying for a major version bump like new ms office where you don't really need to upgrade and will be supported anyway? Sure.

What about upgrades due to the environment and not the app. Like OS changes etc. That’s not bug fixes but those are very real issues with very costs.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

As a user, I want my system to use containerization for me to not worry about where I get my apps from. You know, like Flatpak does it. This isn't really an argument for modern OSes such as desktop Linux anymore.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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A rebranded version of Steam would be interesting here. They support - automatic updates - build branches, included versions locked behind a code - DLC / Upgrades - coupons and bundling - cross platform publishing - selling of applications through third party channels Doesn't solve the 30% issue though. Also don't believe they support any recurring payment options.

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