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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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We left the App Store behind years ago after just getting sick of Apple’s bs and other issues. Could not be happier. Web apps are far easier to deal with, we have full control and for our purposes it ends up being a better multi-platform experience for our users. Not for everyone, of course.

Quite ironic, given that Jobs' original intention was just that[0]

[0]: https://9to5mac.com/2011/10/21/jobs-original-vision-for-the-...

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Firstly I want to say that as a user I hate using the Mac App Store - mainly for all the reasons posted there. There is one large benefit which is often forgotten. When I use the App Store I don't need to worry about your website/database getting hacked or leaking my personal data/credit card information. This is mostly avoided by indie developers using Stripe or some other popular payment gateway, but it is still a…

So many apps still communicate with APIs over the Internet. You might not have to worry as much about specific kinds of attacks like cross site scripting but the attack surface is still present.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#13
As a user, I am pretty happy about most of the negative points listed in this article. Yes, manual reviews are my firewall against too much scamming. I dont want app providers to notify me about their upcoming company party. It is already fishy enough that some app providers use their own notification system to push ads. And dont get me started on paying for updates! What comes next, paying for firmware updates for devices I already own? I think the guys behind this article really have to rethink their attitude.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Apple's popularity is over-hyped and manufactured by PR teams same like KPOP. Company ONLY cares for money, nothing else. Worst part of it is selling security as feature. As it is mentioned in last few weeks somewhere here, Chinese users data is being managed by Chinese firm from last year but apple announced it in last month SILENTELY. Sadly nobody wants to talk against apple. You get downvoted immediately. http://v…

You only get downvoted if the comment is broadly negative, lacking nuance, and making obviously disprovable points such as Apple's popularity being "manufactured by marketing".

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#15
A rebranded version of Steam would be interesting here.

They support

  - automatic updates
  - build branches, included versions locked behind a code
  - DLC / Upgrades
  - coupons and bundling
  - cross platform publishing
  - selling of applications through third party channels
Doesn't solve the 30% issue though. Also don't believe they support any recurring payment options.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#16
I completely understand why developers would find the restrictions of the App Store ridiculous, time consuming, expensive, and frustrating.

But as a user, whenever I need an application, I always check to see if it's available on the App Store first.

Because I can trust the App Store.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#17
If you run your company smart, then publish your software in both places, your own website and AppStore.

Users who trust direct relationship with you, will download directly, enjoy better prices (30% commission omitted) and rapid updates.

At the same time you will not lose a whole marketshare of users for which AppStore is the "go-to" address for buying software.

You can then skill up your SEO capabilities and optimize inbound traffic to your preferred platform whatsoever.

If AppStore policy forbid having a parallel distribution platform, then publish the same app with two different names.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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post #13

As a user, I am pretty happy about most of the negative points listed in this article. Yes, manual reviews are my firewall against too much scamming. I dont want app providers to notify me about their upcoming company party. It is already fishy enough that some app providers use their own notification system to push ads. And dont get me started on paying for updates! What comes next, paying for firmware updates for d…

> And dont get me started on paying for updates!

I think this really depends on implementation. Paying for bugfixes? No, thanks. Paying for a major version bump like new ms office where you don't really need to upgrade and will be supported anyway? Sure.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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post #13

As a user, I am pretty happy about most of the negative points listed in this article. Yes, manual reviews are my firewall against too much scamming. I dont want app providers to notify me about their upcoming company party. It is already fishy enough that some app providers use their own notification system to push ads. And dont get me started on paying for updates! What comes next, paying for firmware updates for d…

Paying for updates has been the standard software model for ages, and with good reason. It still takes money to update and add new features. It still takes time. To some extent new users can pay for this, but then developers have to severely limit the time spent on updates in order to nod spend too much, or they risk not even making a profit on the first version.

That is why most "big" software packages these days are either subscription based, or pay-per-update. We've all come to expect apps to get free updates, but it's not a sustainable business model.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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post #13

As a user, I am pretty happy about most of the negative points listed in this article. Yes, manual reviews are my firewall against too much scamming. I dont want app providers to notify me about their upcoming company party. It is already fishy enough that some app providers use their own notification system to push ads. And dont get me started on paying for updates! What comes next, paying for firmware updates for d…

> And dont get me started on paying for updates! I think this really depends on implementation. Paying for bugfixes? No, thanks. Paying for a major version bump like new ms office where you don't really need to upgrade and will be supported anyway? Sure.

What about paying for compatibility with the latest macOS? Of course, no user would like to pay for that, but the reality of Apple universe is that developers have to spend a lot of time fixing compatibility issues caused by Apple.
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