We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by bangonkeyboard » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:17 AM UTC

We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems
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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by cstrat » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:57 AM UTC

Firstly I want to say that as a user I hate using the Mac App Store - mainly for all the reasons posted there.

There is one large benefit which is often forgotten. When I use the App Store I don't need to worry about your website/database getting hacked or leaking my personal data/credit card information. This is mostly avoided by indie developers using Stripe or some other popular payment gateway, but it is still a concern and annoyance that is removed by something like the App Store.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by robomartin » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:58 AM UTC

We left the App Store behind years ago after just getting sick of Apple’s bs and other issues. Could not be happier. Web apps are far easier to deal with, we have full control and for our purposes it ends up being a better multi-platform experience for our users.

Not for everyone, of course.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by croh » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:58 AM UTC

Apple's popularity is over-hyped and manufactured by PR teams same like KPOP. Company ONLY cares for money, nothing else. Worst part of it is selling security as feature. As it is mentioned in last few weeks somewhere here, Chinese users data is being managed by Chinese firm from last year but apple announced it in last month SILENTELY. Sadly nobody wants to talk against apple. You get downvoted immediately.

http://valleywag.gawker.com/how-apple-owns-the-media-1630628...

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by deanclatworthy » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 5:00 AM UTC

I feel your pain, but I do worry that the end goal of OSX is to lock down the system in the same way as iOS m, even if they say they’re developer (machine) friendly. This could all come full circle for OP requiring read mission to the App Store.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by hlieberman » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 5:04 AM UTC

You still need to pay the $99 a year though, since you need an Apple Developer account to submit binaries to Apple for notarization (which is required to run them on Catalina.)

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by dijit » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 5:06 AM UTC

Actually; now that I think about it, from a user perspective I also really dislike the App Store.

I used to _love_ it, I would check weekly for new things, maybe there was some new shiny (often beautiful) program to do something really well. The experience was on the 'better than passable' side, nobodies favourite interface maybe, but certainly not terrible.

But I actually avoid the App Store these days, both on MacOS and my iPhone. I never really noticed but I just slowly stopped installing new applications from there (unless sent there by a company website in the case of iOS); this was around the time that Apple Music was being foisted down my throat. I'm not sure if there's a correlation there.

I always suspected there were dark patterns at play in the App Store though. Although every program is reviewed, probably only 2% or less of them become popular, and if you are popular, boy, are you popular. the design paradigm is self-fulfilling. ("most popular"/"highest grossing").

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 5:07 AM UTC

hlieberman wrote: post #6

You still need to pay the $99 a year though, since you need an Apple Developer account to submit binaries to Apple for notarization (which is required to run them on Catalina.)

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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by citruspi » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 5:08 AM UTC

cstrat wrote: post #2

Firstly I want to say that as a user I hate using the Mac App Store - mainly for all the reasons posted there. There is one large benefit which is often forgotten. When I use the App Store I don't need to worry about your website/database getting hacked or leaking my personal data/credit card information. This is mostly avoided by indie developers using Stripe or some other popular payment gateway, but it is still a…

That's one of two reasons that I don't mind purchasing on the App Store - the other is licensing.

On the App Store, each app I purchase is licensed for 5 macOS devices and I can unlicense a device/reset the count at any time with a few clicks.

Licensing for other applications is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - sometimes it's a single machine, other times X devices, and other times unlimited devices for a single user/owner. And if the 3rd party licensing server is down, I can't activate my purchased applications - I've literally had this happen before. Purchase Paw from their website, licensing was down, I ended up re-purchasing it on the Mac App Store.

And in the future, if they go out of business and the application needs to be activated with an online server, I'm fucked. If I purchase it from the App Store, I'm fairly confident I'm good to go for the foreseeable future.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Post by danhon » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 5:08 AM UTC

hlieberman wrote: post #6

You still need to pay the $99 a year though, since you need an Apple Developer account to submit binaries to Apple for notarization (which is required to run them on Catalina.)

A paid Apple Developer account is not required to have binaries notarized.