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Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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I am also finding text selection in iOS 13 hit/miss. I either cannot activate the text selection or I cannot select without the cursor jumping all over the place. Also, I miss the magnifying glass for text selection. Did Apple remove that?

Hold down the space key as if you would be force touching it. It will make your finger become the "cursor". Slide it around as you see fit.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #6

Are they that buggy? They seem very stable to me and I’ve been running them since the betas.

I'm on the second-latest MacBook Pro. I completely erased my disk and installed a fresh copy of Catalina when it was released. It's been patched with the post-release update. Almost all settings are at their recommended defaults, there is no third-party stuff that modifies system behavior, and I mostly only use Apple's own apps and services for stuff like music, books, cloud, mail etc. And boy yes there are bugs. Not…

So... what are the bugs?

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #21

I am also finding text selection in iOS 13 hit/miss. I either cannot activate the text selection or I cannot select without the cursor jumping all over the place. Also, I miss the magnifying glass for text selection. Did Apple remove that?

Hold down the space key as if you would be force touching it. It will make your finger become the "cursor". Slide it around as you see fit.

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Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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As a VoiceOver user, I can provide a lesser known perspective. I've gotten used to waiting several months until I actually install a new major release. With the exception of iOS 12, basically all releases since iOS 5 were quite buggy when it comes to apples screen reader VoiceOver. Luckily, applevis.com these days publishes a list of known problems with accessibility on iOS a few days before every major release. So those of us that depend on lesser mainstream features feel the bad release quality already since quite a long time. Still, with all the hickups that Apple has during new releases, their accessibility stack is still lightyears before Android.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

#25

This is a pretty subjective take.

Nothing in that article seemed surprising or especially odd. Most software development shops operate that way, especially the bits about management and feature culling before deadlines.

From talking to a few friends who work at Apple, I believe the article when it says they're not too big on automated testing, which is a shame.

At any rate, nothing in there seems new, as in, that it would explain why this year's releases are particularly more buggy than in any previous year. Assuming that is actually the case; I imagine every year's releases are pretty buggy, but after the .1 release comes out, everyone forgets until the next year.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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The way I've heard one company deal with noticing non-crashing bugs is to treat warning logs as 'crashes' with backtrace snapshots and upload them as specially tagged non-fatal crashes. Might help apple see if clients are having specific icloud issues.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #21

I am also finding text selection in iOS 13 hit/miss. I either cannot activate the text selection or I cannot select without the cursor jumping all over the place. Also, I miss the magnifying glass for text selection. Did Apple remove that?

Hold down the space key as if you would be force touching it. It will make your finger become the "cursor". Slide it around as you see fit.

I was referring to text that's not editable. I can no longer select text on the screen without peeking under my finger to see if I selected everything

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #24

As a VoiceOver user, I can provide a lesser known perspective. I've gotten used to waiting several months until I actually install a new major release. With the exception of iOS 12, basically all releases since iOS 5 were quite buggy when it comes to apples screen reader VoiceOver. Luckily, applevis.com these days publishes a list of known problems with accessibility on iOS a few days before every major release. So t…

> their accessibility stack is still lightyears before Android.

Don't you mean "ahead of"?

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #11
post #4

I’ve been super annoyed at some bugs in iOS Safari. In particular, double tap to zoom on web pages is completely broken. It’s a really old feature that just suddenly stopped working in the new iOS release.

Yep just noticed this today. Why remove this feature ? Did people complain about this during beta and Apple ignore it. Although zooming in by pinching and then double tapping reverts to original size which is nowhere near as useful. Fingers crossed for a point release that brings this back.

Thing is, it’s not removed. It’s just broken. Very very rarely the zoom will kind of work, just not where and when I expect it to.
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