Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy • Hacker News Board

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by bori5 » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:43 AM UTC

geuis wrote: post #4

I’ve been super annoyed at some bugs in iOS Safari. In particular, double tap to zoom on web pages is completely broken. It’s a really old feature that just suddenly stopped working in the new iOS release.

Yep just noticed this today. Why remove this feature ? Did people complain about this during beta and Apple ignore it. Although zooming in by pinching and then double tapping reverts to original size which is nowhere near as useful. Fingers crossed for a point release that brings this back.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by sinuhe69 » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:44 AM UTC

All the points are sensible. But hardly any of them is new so it doesn't help explain why iOS 13 is so buggy.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by crispinb » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:44 AM UTC

nextstep wrote: post #6

Are they that buggy? They seem very stable to me and I’ve been running them since the betas.

Only Apple has the numbers, but reports I've heard from fellow devs don't encourage me to think I made a mistake moving away from MacOS last year.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by devinegan » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:44 AM UTC

mattbillenstein wrote: post #10

nextstep wrote: post #6

Are they that buggy? They seem very stable to me and I’ve been running them since the betas.

Go refill your koolaid please.

Your bias appears to be showing as well.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by crooked-v » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:48 AM UTC

Razengan wrote: post #5

I can only surmise (hope) that their resources are diverted towards Something Big. Could be ARM macOS and/or AR glasses. Not that this excuses the bugginess of their current core products. Bringing up comparisons to Steve Jobs must be the tech equivalent of Godwin's Law, but if there was one thing about him, it's that he actually was a user of his own products, like us. It feels like there's no one at Apple (or other…

They seem to have at least a fair bit of effort devoted to reversing earlier maligned decisions, given the new Mac Pro, thicker iPhones with larger batteries, and the rumors about ditching butterfly switches on the laptops.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by aloknnikhil » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:49 AM UTC

I am also finding text selection in iOS 13 hit/miss. I either cannot activate the text selection or I cannot select without the cursor jumping all over the place. Also, I miss the magnifying glass for text selection. Did Apple remove that?

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by Razengan » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:49 AM UTC

nextstep wrote: post #6

Are they that buggy? They seem very stable to me and I’ve been running them since the betas.

I'm on the second-latest MacBook Pro. I completely erased my disk and installed a fresh copy of Catalina when it was released. It's been patched with the post-release update.

Almost all settings are at their recommended defaults, there is no third-party stuff that modifies system behavior, and I mostly only use Apple's own apps and services for stuff like music, books, cloud, mail etc.

And boy yes there are bugs. Not outright crashing/rebooting, but bugs there are.

I've been using macOS since Lion and I can't recall such a dismal release as Catalina's.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by jammygit » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:50 AM UTC

My wife’s Iphone lost most of its battery life since the update. Very dramatic difference

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by threeseed » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:55 AM UTC

Every .0 release for iOS and OSX has been buggy. Every single one.

And then a few point releases later and it's all forgotten. And then the next .0 release arrives and the blog posts reappear.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Post by manojlds » Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 4:56 AM UTC

Razengan wrote: post #5

I can only surmise (hope) that their resources are diverted towards Something Big. Could be ARM macOS and/or AR glasses. Not that this excuses the bugginess of their current core products. Bringing up comparisons to Steve Jobs must be the tech equivalent of Godwin's Law, but if there was one thing about him, it's that he actually was a user of his own products, like us. It feels like there's no one at Apple (or other…

With their culture, something big will be worked on by a relatively small team in total secrecy. The team, in name of secrecy, will repeat the same mistakes that some other teams are fixing elsewhere.