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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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madaxe_again wrote: post #220
Pokepokalypse wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to me 2013 was the real sweet-spot for MBP. I still use mine almost every single day. It's a beast, and has been very reliable. Keyboard is WAY nicer to type on than the current generation. It's a little thicker and heavier, and lacks USB-c ports, but it's still damn fine.

Yup. Still on my pimped-out 2013 MBP. Still has plenty of horses, and the only things that have failed were a fan ((cats & cigarettes) simple replacement), and the power lead wore through. Super reliable machine, still relevant performance-wise. I plan on using it until it disintegrates. Edit: I wonder if apple regret making these machines. They seem like a failure of planned obsolescence - at least, until new releas…

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by vinay_ys »

I have been using Macs to manage my digital life (personal photos, files, videos, music, notes, documents etc) since Tiger/Leopard days and have been mostly happy with the experience. But I feel now more than ever before that my decade and half old collection is on shaky ground and at risk of being lost with any given OS upgrade. Lost because of file system or crypto or some such software deprecation/compatibility bug or because of the software apps may become unusable. (Btw iOS 13 upgrade did cause me data loss on my phone – it wouldn't unlock after upgrade because my passcode had a special character that it would no longer accept as input, post upgrade. I had to wipe reset the phone and lost data that hadn't synced yet.)

Standards based software engineering seems to be all but dead in consumer apps (it never existed?). Clearly, there is no explicit guarantee of longevity to your data and the metadata (edits, collections, albums, tags, comments) you create upon your own data.

This is a really poor way to live one's digital life.

Do you think about longevity of your data+metadata? What's your setup deal with this?

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by benhurmarcel »

amiantos wrote: post #38
throwaway1777 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about all the iCloud bugs? https://tyler.io/broken/

Countering a personal anecdote with another personal anecdote. Here's another: I've been using Catalina since release on multiple Macs and haven't had any problems. I'm also an extensive user of iCloud services, Photos and Drive are very important to me and if I had any issues with either I'd probably lose my mind.

iCloud having bugs isn't a rare occurrence.

I only have one Apple device (an iPhone), and even in that simple use case I have sync issues from time to time. It's mainly previously deleted things that appear back on the device (photos, reminders…).

Apple isn't good at this.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by siquick »

kkylin wrote: post #195

- I like SideCar. After logging in and out of iCloud, it works just fine. - Having issue with Time Machine taking forever, but that seems to be more a Spotlight indexing issue. - Anyone else miss the iTunes Remote? I kinda like the new Music app, but wish I can still control it from my phone.

I just bought an iPad today solely for Sidecar. As a remote dev who doesn't want to lug a monitor around, its an absolute diamond of a feature.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by audunw »

teekert wrote: post #205

My father feels the same, he initially started using apple because he felt his Windows machine was using too much of his time for bs. Now he just upgraded to Catalina and Photos stopped working with this Synology based library, even I, a computer nerd, have already spend an hour at the problem. We are about done. I feel that Windows 10 would be just fine for him (or maybe I can get him sold on Ubuntu). Where pictures…

> Where pictures are simply in folders and any backup program will just sync them anywhere.

That's how I organize photos on Mac OS. You don't have to use the Photos app. Periodically I dump all the photos from my phone and other devices and sort them in folders by year (and sometimes sub-folders for vacations and other big events). I only use Photos to get at the pictures from my phone if I need to look at them before the dump.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by deanclatworthy »

arvinsim wrote: post #181
deanclatworthy wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s why as a creative you should be using a backup solution. With modern internet connections backing up is quick and efficient. File loss should be expected on the FS. Many things can and will go wrong one day.

Having a backup still doesn't excuse Catalina for that bug.

Didn’t say it did. But doesn’t matter what OS you’re on, data might get lost at the hardware or software level.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by skohan »

jwr wrote: post #184

I fully agree with the author, and I am also worried about how Apple treats its users. And I am also an abandoned Aperture user, with huge libraries full of organized albums with non-destructive edits. I still do not know what to do about that. Having read most of the comments, I got the impression that you could correlate them with age. Younger people are all "Catalina works for me! Progress! Change is necessary! Wh…

I'm in the same situation with Aperture. It's not only a problem because of the issue you describe with losing the product of my prior work, but it's not clear what the migration target would be. The most obvious alternative is Lightroom, but this would mean trading a tool I have been using happily for free for 7 years for a 20EUR/month subscription service I would have to maintain the rest of my digital life.

My current solution is just to keep a bootable Mojave volume around, but long term I don't know.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by jonathanstrange »

deanclatworthy wrote: post #172
lostgame wrote: post #131

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>> it's still randomly losing files. Whoa, no. That is a huge code red for me as a creative. Especially in the music folder. I work at all crazy times of day and night, inspiration hits, and is often impossible to replace. Not alright.

That’s why as a creative you should be using a backup solution. With modern internet connections backing up is quick and efficient. File loss should be expected on the FS. Many things can and will go wrong one day.

A big No to that. File loss should be expected due to disk failure, but certainly not "on the file system." That's like saying data loss should be expected in a database. If your FS loses files, get a better FS.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by skohan »

johnisgood wrote: post #97
SliderUp wrote: post #94

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But why warn, why stop supporting it at all?

Because the removal of widely used things that worked fine caught on for some reason. Apple has been doing this for a while now. Jack, USB, ESC key, whatever else I cannot recall.

I am with you as far as the headpone jack and escape key, but I am more than happy to embrace the USB-C only future. The main problem is peripheral manufacturers are slow to catch on.

I wish I had my HDMI and SD card ports back though.

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