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Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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The shipping numbers are correct. Shipping is incredibly carbon-efficient at moving large amounts of freight. The pollution problem from shipping is not in the form of carbon emissions. It's in the form of oil spills, NO2, SO2, etc pollution, and it is difficult to accurately estimate. [1] On the other hand, estimating ship carbon emissions is easy - count how much bunker oil gets produced, world-wide, and assume all…

Yeah as my life cycle analysis friend says, "transportation is waste".

Then again, nothing is more wasteful than producing everything locally.

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Ecologically speaking maybe Steve Jobs/Star Trek respectively were onto something. A high quality minimal personal style that involves orders of magnitude less garment churn and waste with the added benefit of just not having to spend time on what to wear each day (insert pithy Jobs quote). But seriously if I was to explore finding a personal style that I could wear as my day to day work/life “uniform”, where to look…

It is very easy. For work you have the standard business casual. From bottom up it is black shoes (but not necessarily super shiny), black socks, slacks that are either black, grey, beige, or brown and a colorful checkered or striped button down shirt. Also, a belt. The shirt should be colorful but without too bright colors or contrasts. You can find the whole thing at banana republic. The good thing about this style…

I’d add a pair of brown dress shoes to the list and increase the pants colors include a darkish blue. Regardless, the belt and shoes should match.

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> Want to be green and look great? Drop the Patagonia fleece... That Patagonia “fleece” would feel nicer, function better, and last longer if it were actually made out of a fleece and not out of plastic. I can’t really understand how that happened.

Wait, the "fleece" jackets are made of plastic?? You're not talking about the outer layer of the down jackets?

Patagonia actually advertises that it's fleece is made from recycled water bottles.

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I hate suits. Where's the equivalent for my pants/shirt/sweater combo?

Jeans, t shirt and hoodie

I love a good hoodie, but I’d suggest a modest blazer or two in your wardrobe for rotation with dress shoes, even if you’re sporting a plain solid color T-shirt.

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I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…

I know it is the case that you can find In thrift stores such items that in a usual store would sell for a very high price. Got bought one such piece of clothing. However, these items are definitely not evenly distributed all over the world. For example, the second-hand electronics market on craigslist in the Bay Area in California is much better than in, for example, Miami Florida (I'm guessing)

It's also very random whether you'll find what you're looking for. You're just not going to find a $300 retail pair of jeans in a thrift store on your first outing. And even when you do, odds are they won't be in your size.

I live in Brooklyn and go thrifting a lot, mostly because it's a fun activity and because you find things you wouldn't normally think to look for. But 9/10 times I'm leaving with nothing. And for all the time I spend thrifting I could take up just as many hours doing freelance web development, use that to buy things I want brand new, and still have extra money left over.

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this is the reason we need carbon & pollution tax! this is like whack-a-mole, way too many industries lurking under the radar & polluting our common resources for private profit. unless we put a price to it they will not factor in the cost to the rest of us.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…

That reads almost like a George Carlin joke (I mean it in a good way). It would be better if people thrifted more rather than always buying new. Thrifting is hit or miss though depending on where you are and what surrounding area the donations are sourced from. Go thrifting in around a big city or rich suburbs and it's more likely to find "diamonds in the rough" like designer brands and basically unworn clothing. But…

This sounds attractive when you have more time than money.

I buy new clothes because I can quickly find a wide selection online, filter through it by size, price, etc, and be done buying a whole new set of clothes (that replace worn-out clothes) in the same 2-3 hours it takes to go to a thrift store or two, and find 1-2 pieces that fit.

I'm fashion-oblivious though; for people who want to look just so this approach would be rather expensive.

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> I'd happily wear a DS9 or First Contact era Starfleet uniform all day. They look great! :). So what’s stopping you? Copyright law?

Honestly? Too much effort finding a tailor friendly enough to make it (and perhaps not charge exorbitant amounts of money). And my wife most likely wouldn't approve me walking in it daily around our small town. (And, I don't feel I meet Starfleet standards of excellence, so I don't deserve to wear one.) Some 12 years ago I got together with a group of folks, intending to shoot a fan Star Trek series. We got as far as…

Honestly, there's a company other called volante design that makes them, but they're kidna pricy.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…

I personally love wearing kinda dumpy clothes I get from the thrift store. Some of my friends make shirts that I buy, or a local bar I frequent is selling shirts, but apart from that I just go 100% thrifting. I spend hardly any money, am more comfortable, and get to avoid all the signaling behind e.g. a patagonia fleece or other class-based clothing associations people have

I’d love to see gov Newsome wear dumpy clothes.

He loves things like banning plastic straws, which have very little impact, but is always looking to be stylish —but I don’t see him pulling a David Axelrod or James Traficant.

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