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Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by nitwit005 »

esotericn wrote: post #18

We really need a better industry around re-use of essentially everything. Let's say I need some X. Last week I bought a base layer because it's getting cold here. I can order, or buy in a store, a brand new X trivially. I don't actually need a brand new X. A used X would do me just fine. But the difficulty in doing so is ridiculous in comparison. Cottage industry eBay stuff (that you have to order online) vs. an enti…

Imagine that half the population is wearing the same wardrobe of cloths, and buying used ones when they wear out. The other half buys new outfits every couple of days, discarding items after wearing them a handful of times.

The first group will never consume enough cloths to make use of what the second group discards.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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evolve2k wrote: post #39

Ecologically speaking maybe Steve Jobs/Star Trek respectively were onto something. A high quality minimal personal style that involves orders of magnitude less garment churn and waste with the added benefit of just not having to spend time on what to wear each day (insert pithy Jobs quote). But seriously if I was to explore finding a personal style that I could wear as my day to day work/life “uniform”, where to look…

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Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by timwaagh »

evolve2k wrote: post #39

Ecologically speaking maybe Steve Jobs/Star Trek respectively were onto something. A high quality minimal personal style that involves orders of magnitude less garment churn and waste with the added benefit of just not having to spend time on what to wear each day (insert pithy Jobs quote). But seriously if I was to explore finding a personal style that I could wear as my day to day work/life “uniform”, where to look…

You don't need any company to sell you yet another wardrobe full of clothes because the point is to consume less clothes, not more. take care of and appreciate your existing wardrobe. Switching style type of behavior is at the root of this expanded carbon footprint. Remember 85% of production ends up in the dump in a year. Unfathomable. Honestly the level of consumption right now is impossible given anything resembling normal consumption. It has little to do with cheap fashion or uniforms and everything with some people wanting to shop every weekend. Who has time for that anyways? If you still want to dress like Jobs then buy your black turtleneck wool sweater, but not five of them in one go. Don't throw anything away for it, either. After a while your bulging wardrobe will make you space conscious enough to very carefully consider any subsequent purchase.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by thrower123 »

flyGuyOnTheSly wrote: post #112

I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…

Around Boston, when the most part of the leases come due every year and people move out, there's so much good free stuff left at the curb that I've heard it dubbed "Allston Christmas."

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by esotericn »

evolve2k wrote: post #39

Ecologically speaking maybe Steve Jobs/Star Trek respectively were onto something. A high quality minimal personal style that involves orders of magnitude less garment churn and waste with the added benefit of just not having to spend time on what to wear each day (insert pithy Jobs quote). But seriously if I was to explore finding a personal style that I could wear as my day to day work/life “uniform”, where to look…

I pretty much wear a cotton dress shirt and pants every day.

Formal or informal, cold or warm (more or fewer layers e.g. a blazer), sorted.

Flat coloured long sleeved tops are my go-to on more casual days.

Branded stuff, slogan shirts etc go out of style.

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Post by omosubi »

thrower123 wrote: post #134
flyGuyOnTheSly wrote: post #112

I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…

Around Boston, when the most part of the leases come due every year and people move out, there's so much good free stuff left at the curb that I've heard it dubbed "Allston Christmas."

They have a quasi holiday for it in Quebec - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Day_(Quebec)

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by acabal »

mandelbrotwurst wrote: post #130
gumby wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Want to be green and look great? Drop the Patagonia fleece... That Patagonia “fleece” would feel nicer, function better, and last longer if it were actually made out of a fleece and not out of plastic. I can’t really understand how that happened.

Wait, the "fleece" jackets are made of plastic?? You're not talking about the outer layer of the down jackets?

Modern "fleece" is polyester, which is plastic-based: https://www.contrado.co.uk/blog/what-is-fleece/

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by rinchik »

thrower123 wrote: post #134
flyGuyOnTheSly wrote: post #112

I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…

Around Boston, when the most part of the leases come due every year and people move out, there's so much good free stuff left at the curb that I've heard it dubbed "Allston Christmas."

Oh, the "nightmare season". It just ended I believe? September is the month, right? I'm so grateful I managed to escape.

What was happening in NYC in 18xx ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Day_(New_York_City) ) , happens in Boston in 2019.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by drdrey »

petre wrote: post #123
pkaye wrote: post #2

The quality of clothing has gone downhill over the years. Both the fabric and the stitching. They just fall apart faster.

It's called planned obsolescence. The plan is to be obsolete by next season, so four to six months. Although I wouldn't count on H&M clothing to last ten washing cycles.

Is it planned obsolescence or just competing on price? If you try to make something as cheap as possible, you're not optimizing for durability
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