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BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by cyc116 »

falcolas wrote: post #120
ericol wrote: post #116

I think that's the ruling party way of things: They usually try to obliterate into particles whoever dares to oppose them. Or whoever crosses their path; or whoever they don't like for whatever reason. Just take a look at the Uyghurs situation. * edited because it seems people where taking offence on I miss using the word Chinese instead of "ruling party", that is actually what I meant.

How did their idiom go? "We'll grind you up and crush your bones." Sure, it is just an idiom, but it speaks to the thoroughness of their punishments. EDIT: This is a direct, and recent, quote from Xí Jìnpíng when discussing (with foreign leaders) how the Chinese government will treat anyone who tries to split or sew dissent in China.

How does the English idiom goes?

"ignorance is bliss"

Sure, it's just an idiom, but it definitely sound like it applies to you when you make a racial comment like that.

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Post by luckylion »

jasonlotito wrote: post #64
chmod775 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternatively: "I don't want other people's pain and suffering to ruin my good time. Please suffer quietly and out of sight."

But that's already been happening for years. It wasn't until Blizzard banned a HS player that people got riled up. Prior to that, no one really cared. In fact, those doing the boycott weren't planning on doing anything prior to this. It wasn't until the community they were apart of was affected that they did something. If anything, Blizzard doing what it did helped the cause more than anything. If they hadn't done an…

> It wasn't until Blizzard banned a HS player that people got riled up.

Correction: It wasn't until Blizzard banned a HS player during a US/China trade war that people got riled up.

Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by nerfhammer »

hugey010 wrote: post #129
erulabs wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CVS stopped selling cigarettes and lost $2B revenue per year. After a few years, their stock is up. Is that seeking profit or doing what's right? Why does public good and public profit always have to be opposed? If being "woke" is profitable, we shouldn't discourage the good just because of potential profits. That would be like boycotting the Prius because Toyota is trying to make money off environmental concerns...

There are a few decent case studies around this move, and I still find it fascinating. They can say they did it for their values, but immediate revenue loss for values doesn't happen all that often. If it were truly for values, I'd expect alcohol to be removed from shelves as well. In the early 2000's, CVS started treating patients at their MinuteClinics in the pharmacy. It became directly comparable to an actual doc…

they sell alcohol at CVS?

Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by falcolas »

cyc116 wrote: post #131
falcolas wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did their idiom go? "We'll grind you up and crush your bones." Sure, it is just an idiom, but it speaks to the thoroughness of their punishments. EDIT: This is a direct, and recent, quote from Xí Jìnpíng when discussing (with foreign leaders) how the Chinese government will treat anyone who tries to split or sew dissent in China.

How does the English idiom goes? "ignorance is bliss" Sure, it's just an idiom, but it definitely sound like it applies to you when you make a racial comment like that.

Is it a racial comment when the leader of a country uses that exact quote to describe how they will deal with anyone who threatens the harmony of China, including the situations that the grandparent was referring to?

https://supchina.com/2019/10/15/well-grind-you-up-and-crush-...

Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by throwaway66920 »

CivBase wrote: post #50

IMO, Blizzards actions have been borderline incompetent. I completely understand them not wanting their platform to be used to make political statements. This isn't like the NBA situation where Morey used a private social media account to show support for his private political opiniona. This was a platform owned by Blizzard with a very specific content focus. But banning Blitzchung for any amount of time was just dum…

You’re writing this with the assumption that they were not explicitly told what to do by the Chinese government.

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Post by chipperyman573 »

erulabs wrote: post #100
ahelwer wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps people will now realize corporations only act woke to the extent it is to their benefit, and not a millimeter further. Profit consumes all. Corporations will never choose morality.

CVS stopped selling cigarettes and lost $2B revenue per year. After a few years, their stock is up. Is that seeking profit or doing what's right? Why does public good and public profit always have to be opposed? If being "woke" is profitable, we shouldn't discourage the good just because of potential profits. That would be like boycotting the Prius because Toyota is trying to make money off environmental concerns...

Wait, how did CSV help anything? People aren't going to stop buying cigarettes. They're addictive. People will just start paying double from a gas station.

Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by [deleted] »

cyc116 wrote: post #131
falcolas wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did their idiom go? "We'll grind you up and crush your bones." Sure, it is just an idiom, but it speaks to the thoroughness of their punishments. EDIT: This is a direct, and recent, quote from Xí Jìnpíng when discussing (with foreign leaders) how the Chinese government will treat anyone who tries to split or sew dissent in China.

How does the English idiom goes? "ignorance is bliss" Sure, it's just an idiom, but it definitely sound like it applies to you when you make a racial comment like that.

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Re: BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers

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Post by cyc116 »

falcolas wrote: post #134
cyc116 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does the English idiom goes? "ignorance is bliss" Sure, it's just an idiom, but it definitely sound like it applies to you when you make a racial comment like that.

Is it a racial comment when the leader of a country uses that exact quote to describe how they will deal with anyone who threatens the harmony of China, including the situations that the grandparent was referring to? https://supchina.com/2019/10/15/well-grind-you-up-and-crush-...

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> Is it a racial comment when the leader of a country uses that exact quote to describe how they will deal with anyone who threatens the harmony of China, including the situations that the grandparent was referring to?

It is, when your message is an explicit commented on "I think that's the Chinese way of thing:[...]". Please understand that Xi does not speak for all Chinese (hence the protest and conflict) and having an idiom about crushing bones says next to nothing about how a culture or race is.

There are plenty of idioms in English about idiots. Does that say anything about English speakers? I highly doubt it.

--- Update Pardon my words. I said it too hastily and don't mean to accuse you. I am born in China and have lived 10 years there. I disagree with some of the actions of the current Chinese government but I am also frustrated with people commenting on things without spending enough time to self educate.

The link that you have attached seem to be mostly anti-government and (IMO) provides a very limited view on a very complex problem.

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Post by ericol »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #128
ericol wrote: post #116

I think that's the ruling party way of things: They usually try to obliterate into particles whoever dares to oppose them. Or whoever crosses their path; or whoever they don't like for whatever reason. Just take a look at the Uyghurs situation. * edited because it seems people where taking offence on I miss using the word Chinese instead of "ruling party", that is actually what I meant.

Chinese way or Communist Party way? They’re not necessarily the same.

Well, to be fair they stopped being "communist" a long time ago. But yes, you are conrrect: By "China" I didn't mean the whole of China acts that way. It's their current government.

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Post by [deleted] »

CivBase wrote: post #50

IMO, Blizzards actions have been borderline incompetent. I completely understand them not wanting their platform to be used to make political statements. This isn't like the NBA situation where Morey used a private social media account to show support for his private political opiniona. This was a platform owned by Blizzard with a very specific content focus. But banning Blitzchung for any amount of time was just dum…

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