How is this legal?
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder about an app that just has phone numbers and a short description of hotels. If there are 50,000 hotels in the US, and you store 1K worth of data, that's only 50M. You could keep that on a phone no problem.
Once I checked Agoda to get an idea of the room prices in the area I was visiting, but decided to get the room directly from reception assuming that the price would be the one I saw on Agoda minus their commision. I was wrong, the price was about 15% more expensive at reception and it didn't include breakfast. I pointed to them that I could get the room cheaper from Agoda and they told me to get it from Agoda then. I…
Yes. This happens a lot.
Often it's because the Hotels don't have an proper direct booking procedure in place and getting a direct booking is a hassle for them.
In many countries though they are not even allowed by Booking to give a cheaper price which shows the power they have.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Always get in the seat of the defense. I would absolutely have made a few headless browsing bots masquarading as users just incase this scenario occurred Look your honor the logs say other users, “people”, were looking regardless of our random function
Ah yes the classic legal principle of "two wrongs makes a right".
The legal principle of custom tailoring your defense based on what the charge and consequence is, after covering your ass based on what the potential charges and consequences are
Thats the literal theme of this website’s headlines where you been
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, you can't be sure they're lying. Odds are nonzero that 38 ppl were looking at that flight
>I mean, you can't be sure they're lying. Odds are nonzero that 38 ppl were looking at that flight I suggest you click on the link, they absolutely are lying. They're using JS to generate a random number between 28 and 45. If there happens to be 38 people looking at that flight it's entirely coincidental.
You don't do sarcasm, do you
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#125When booking hotels, I prefer to call them up directly. Many times just being nice to the staff you can get a much better deal than elsewhere online. And also better cancellation policies.
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#126I love imagining the Jira ticket for these. “As a desperate guy trying to save his marriage with a last-minute holiday, I want to know just how many other lost souls I am competing with, so I loose what little dignity I have left”
"As an evil corporation, we need to make money, so we'll lie to the customer."
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#127So some manager came up with this, tasked a PO, who tasked a team, and a frontend developer implemented it - and in this chain, in the end, everyone complied. I know it's not like murder, but especially in a field where it's so easy to hop into another job/project, one should have greater integrity.
> tasked a PO, who tasked a team, and a frontend developer implemented it - and in this chain, in the end, everyone complied
You have only worked on big projects, right? This could be on developer.
It could also be a FE change that was supposed to be hooked up to the backend, but went out early.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Integrity -- the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness . The definition of integrity requires honesty. Do you think it is honest to tell people "there are 38 rooms left" when you know 38 is a random number? The definition also requires you to act morally. Do you think that anything legal is moral, and vice versa? Slavery was legal. German extermination camps were legal. Were th…
Morality is subjective, according to my moral framework, telling people there are 38 room left, if I'm the business owner and the benefit > cost then yes. Same thing with slavery, extermination camp, weed. To some people these are moral.
Frankly speaking, your moral framework needs work. Sincerely, the rest of society.
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#129A dark pattern implies something that is intentionally misleading. This is just lying. This is not a dark pattern because it’s Worse.
Lying is also intentionally misleading, so I'm not sure if your conclusion makes sense. Plus I would assume recurrent lying falls under the "dark pattern" category -- it certainly isn't a good or neutral pattern.
We don’t need another word for lying. Dark patterns are trying to trick your users into doing something they didn’t want to. The term exists because other terms didn’t capture this undesirable behavior well enough, and it need not be expanded to literally anything negative.
And not all sales/marketing tricks are inherently evil. I don’t think eBay telling you how many users watched an item in the past hour is immoral so as long as it’s accurate.
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#130A while back I was working at a web startup (since folded), and management decided they wanted to inflate the usage numbers reported on the home page. I was asked to write the code for it. I refused, telling my boss that I didn’t want to lie to our users. He said, “it’s not for them, it’s for the board.” “So we’re lying to the board, then?” I asked. He dropped it, and the task fell to another engineer. The first vers…
Spoiler alert: just like in that epsiode of Silicon Valley but cheaper!