Live data from Hacker News

LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

legoos.io

31–40 of 83 posts

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#31

LEGO have a very friendly[1] explanation that they must pursue legal action to protect their trademark internationally. They have rules about using their trademark in names, logos, websites and URLs. [1] https://www.lego.com/en-sg/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-p...

s/LegoOS/LegOS/g

Edit: snark aside, another user points out that LegOS is taken by a mindstorms operating system: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21285290

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#32

Supports Infiniband out of the box - neat!

Yeah! Sounds like it fits in well with their approach:

The initial implementation focuses on process, memory, and storage monitors communicating via a customised RDMA-based network stack.

Also offers low latency which would be key for a distributed system like this. I've made use of a lot of older-gen Infiniband gear off eBay (was cheaper than 10GigE, more performant) and love it.

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#33
post #25
post #7

So, actually reading the paper. What it appears that they are doing is blowing up the concept of a 'server' entirely, and replacing the system bus with network. So you can have a bunch of 'servers' racked together which create a pool of cpus, ram, storage, and so on, all of which are connected by the network. And then they pull from this pool of resources to create vNodes which are like virtual machines. I like the i…

Sounds sort of like what AT&T did with Plan 9 back in the day.

Why didn't Plan9 catch on/pan out mainstream?

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#34

LEGO have a very friendly[1] explanation that they must pursue legal action to protect their trademark internationally. They have rules about using their trademark in names, logos, websites and URLs. [1] https://www.lego.com/en-sg/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-p...

s/LegoOS/LegOS/g Edit: snark aside, another user points out that LegOS is taken by a mindstorms operating system: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21285290

Which was itself renamed to brickOS at the behest of LEGO:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrickOS

Way back in 2004, I used brickOS via Cygwin to build a LEGO robot capable of playing Connect4... the event was a competition by rtlToronto, jokingly called Deep Yellow. Amazingly, there are some pics still online here: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=71985

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#35

LEGO have a very friendly[1] explanation that they must pursue legal action to protect their trademark internationally. They have rules about using their trademark in names, logos, websites and URLs. [1] https://www.lego.com/en-sg/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-p...

I wouldn’t blame them. The project even goes as far as to so show LEGO-like bricks on the webpage.

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#37
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds sort of like what AT&T did with Plan 9 back in the day.

Why didn't Plan9 catch on/pan out mainstream?

Plan 9 was intentionally not a product. They later tried to productize it with Inferno, but that failed primarily because it came a decade too late.

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#38

LEGO have a very friendly[1] explanation that they must pursue legal action to protect their trademark internationally. They have rules about using their trademark in names, logos, websites and URLs. [1] https://www.lego.com/en-sg/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-p...

You broke their rules by not adding a trademark symbol after the word LEGO. You'll be receiving a C&D letter from their legal team shortly. :)

Some of their rules are ridiculous, for instance I have to use all upper case and am not allowed to use the word as a noun, for instance to call them "Legos" (I must say LEGO™ bricks, even though many of the pieces are not at all brick shaped).

Sorry but no.

That said, I'm surprised anyone would think it was a good idea to name their OS "LegoOS" and include pictures of LEGO™ bricks.

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trademark infringement. They could argue it is a different category than the toy company, but I think that line of argument is already lost given they are using LEGO style bricks on the website.

> They could argue it is a different category than the toy company, but I think that line of argument is already lost given they are using LEGO style bricks on the website It helps that it is a different product. They could put down Pikachu iconography and that doesn't make the product similar to Pikachu. All colored bricks are not (yet) under Mattel's control. I think there's wiggle room.

LEGO trademark registration https://trademarks.justia.com/745/93/lego-74593028.html registers the trademarks also in all the major categories where software can fall in, and so it's upon LegoOS to demonstrate that there's no way that an uninformed consumer might confuse and think that they're related (which is IMHO impossible, given a single look at their homepage).

It also explictly lists that the trademark is used (among other things) for educational computer programs, computer accessories, entertainment services in the nature of providing facilities for playing computer games, conducting workshops for instruction in the use of computer software, etc - and that's true, I personally know a bunch of software products with the LEGO™ brand.

As the trademark is both used and registered not only for plastic bricks but also in the field of software, naming a product LegoOS by itself would invite a trademark claim, and putting a red brick (that's not registered, but definitely does create an association for the average consumer, which matters very much in trademark claims) on the homepage just removes any maneuvering space; IMHO it'd be a slam-dunk guaranteed immediate injunction if LEGO sends a C&D that gets contested. And the practice of trademark law means that they pretty much must sent a C&D, not doing so would be quite bad for them.

Re: LegoOS: A Disseminated, Distributed Operating System

#40

LEGO have a very friendly[1] explanation that they must pursue legal action to protect their trademark internationally. They have rules about using their trademark in names, logos, websites and URLs. [1] https://www.lego.com/en-sg/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-p...

You broke their rules by not adding a trademark symbol after the word LEGO. You'll be receiving a C&D letter from their legal team shortly. :) Some of their rules are ridiculous, for instance I have to use all upper case and am not allowed to use the word as a noun, for instance to call them "Legos" (I must say LEGO™ bricks, even though many of the pieces are not at all brick shaped). Sorry but no. That said, I'm sur…

Trademark, not copyright. These are two very different things with quite different rules.
Post reply on HN