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Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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They are between a rock and hard place. It's a total no-win for them now. (Queue morbid curiosity.)

Well, let's hope the kowtow to genocidal fascist dictatorship option is clearly the more painful of two painful paths.

How did this sort of thing work out for the NFL, in terms of kneeling players? Pretty well, all things considered.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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I will never buy another product by blizzard regardless of future behavior. I will be reminding people of their feckless behavior in one star reviews a decade from now. I doubt I'm the only one. I support the corporate death penalty.

Just a litmus test: Do you also boycott Chick-Fil-A, for their, far worse stance against basic human rights (Giving money to charities that are actively working on promoting anti-gay hate crimes)? And the NFL, for their unwillingness to have the playing field be a soapbox for political statements about the treatment of African Americans, by police? You must surely note that many people who have recently jumped on the…

Religious freedom != hate crimes, at least not yet. When those are equal though, trust me Chick Fil A will be the least of your problems.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

#43
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On this issue, I support China and Xi. This makes me like Blizzard for once in a long while. China has every right to put down arrogant, entitled brats committing acts of violence and property destruction on its streets. I have no desire to see my country entangled in more foreign conflicts, and the disgusting support of hawks and media entities for the petulant Cantonese brats in Hong Kong is yet another reason to s…

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Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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On this issue, I support China and Xi. This makes me like Blizzard for once in a long while. China has every right to put down arrogant, entitled brats committing acts of violence and property destruction on its streets. I have no desire to see my country entangled in more foreign conflicts, and the disgusting support of hawks and media entities for the petulant Cantonese brats in Hong Kong is yet another reason to s…

The hawk in this situation is the fascist dictatorship which seeks to stamp out the growing bastion of civilization that Hong Kong represents and substitute its superiour system of justice for the mere whims and fetishes of Jinping Xi.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

#46

This is a crisis point for everyone who supports political free speech. Every corporation and business person is watching this to see which hurts their bottom line less, suppressing free speech globally, or angering China. As consumers, we must make sure that they get the message loud and clear that suppressing free speech globally on behalf of China is going to hurt their bottom line far more than China will. Otherw…

> This is a crisis point for everyone who supports political free speech.

It’s a crisis created by the political movement to force every company to take a political stance on every issue, and to force companies to not associate with political out-group members. I’m sure it feels really good when you’re in the in-group, but quite obviously gets people really worked up when it doesn’t come down on their side.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

#47

This is a crisis point for everyone who supports political free speech. Every corporation and business person is watching this to see which hurts their bottom line less, suppressing free speech globally, or angering China. As consumers, we must make sure that they get the message loud and clear that suppressing free speech globally on behalf of China is going to hurt their bottom line far more than China will. Otherw…

Blizzard stock hasn't suffered yet.

And I doubt the cancelled subscriptions and closed accounts will have a significant long term impact. Especially since they mitigated account deletions by only allowing manual deletion requests with a submitted id; due to very conveniently timed and curiously persistent technical difficulties...

These public outrage storms quickly subside and people go back to playing the games.

It's curios to me though how so many companies completely bend the knee to China, even though Chinese only have a small amount of stock or revenue percentage.

I guess the market potential is just too great. And of course for companies like Apple they are at the mercy of Chinese supply chains.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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They reversed that decision already, and halved the amount of time of the suspensions. It's not good enough when combined with denying any wrongdoing in the original decision, though, and when Blizzard's own Chinese version of its apology for Blitzchung's speech included a phrase that translates something like "We will protect the national dignity [of China]". -- https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10/10/verified-chine…

NetEase, their regional publisher, made that statement. It was also posted before the controversy started.

Blizzard has not chosen to condemn, distance itself from or otherwise comment on that statement, despite it being made in their name. They are obviously aware it exists and how many people are outraged at it.

Therefore the only logical conclusion is that they endorse it.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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These incidents are making me reevaluate my views on the Cold War. Growing up after the Cold War was over, I always thought the domestic reaction (in the US) to the Soviet Union and Communism was overblown. Of course, growing up during the 1990s boom, it was inconceivable to me that any foreign country could have the slightest negative impact on me, or that there was any possibility that the future offered anything o…

The difference is that the USSR was a small market, so it was possible to crush it economically, which is what the West did. This time around China is looking to become the largest market and if we let it to become one before China sheds its "communism with Chinese characteristics", it will crush the West.

And in large part that is due to our different approach to China. Opening up trade with China enabled its economy to reach the level it did today. In part [0] the minds thought trade would bring liberalization in China. But that didn’t happen, it’s quite a thing to walk back now but clearly it needs to happen. Unfortunately the politics of the US and EU are in absolute disarray so coordinating that is difficult to imagine.

([0] In another part forming relationships with China was also in part about putting a wedge between China and the USSR. Which may have been more productive but doesn’t explain the normal relationship since 1990.)

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

#50
post #34
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They reversed that decision already, and halved the amount of time of the suspensions. It's not good enough when combined with denying any wrongdoing in the original decision, though, and when Blizzard's own Chinese version of its apology for Blitzchung's speech included a phrase that translates something like "We will protect the national dignity [of China]". -- https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10/10/verified-chine…

NetEase, their regional publisher, made that statement. It was also posted before the controversy started.

Thanks, didn't know that, I'd thought it was Blizzard China.
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