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Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by vkou »

azernik wrote: post #18
vkou wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not. It's a crisis for speech by entities that are seeking to make millions of dollars in China. Those corporations were never in the business of defending free speech in the first place. If you were expecting them to, I would suggest finding better role models. This is not a problem for anyone who does not care about selling out to the Chinese market.

> anyone who does not care about selling out to the Chinese market It's a crisis for speech by customers of those companies , who must make clear that they are just as capable of punishing those companies as the Chinese government.

When you're a tournament winner, you're not a customer of the company, you're a partner that's using the tournament as a soapbox for your politics.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by paulddraper »

cjbprime wrote: post #10

The huge question here is what's going to happen at BlizzCon in two weeks. There'll be 40,000+ attendees, cameras everywhere, there are usually Q&A panels, homemade signs for player support, cosplay, everything. How can you host BlizzCon when you're terrified of political speech?

They are between a rock and hard place.

It's a total no-win for them now.

(Queue morbid curiosity.)

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by lucasmullens »

streb-lo wrote: post #17
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #4

This is a crisis point for everyone who supports political free speech. Every corporation and business person is watching this to see which hurts their bottom line less, suppressing free speech globally, or angering China. As consumers, we must make sure that they get the message loud and clear that suppressing free speech globally on behalf of China is going to hurt their bottom line far more than China will. Otherw…

> is going to hurt their bottom line far more than China will. Yea right. a) China has a huge market and b) most people don't really care. Go to /r/hearthstone or /r/wow and browse by new. People don't care.

I just looked at https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/new/ and 2 of the 3 first posts are about China.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by thrower123 »

michaelmrose wrote: post #12
rolltiide wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One east coast hurricane or larger west coast earthquake will drown this issue out

I will never buy another product by blizzard regardless of future behavior. I will be reminding people of their feckless behavior in one star reviews a decade from now. I doubt I'm the only one. I support the corporate death penalty.

This would be more of a big deal if Blizzard was still making products that appealed to a Western market. They really don't, anymore.

They've reached the point that they are just remastering their greatest hits. Otherwise it is all e-sports.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by vkou »

michaelmrose wrote: post #12
rolltiide wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One east coast hurricane or larger west coast earthquake will drown this issue out

I will never buy another product by blizzard regardless of future behavior. I will be reminding people of their feckless behavior in one star reviews a decade from now. I doubt I'm the only one. I support the corporate death penalty.

Just a litmus test:

Do you also boycott Chick-Fil-A, for their, far worse stance against basic human rights (Giving money to charities that are actively working on promoting anti-gay hate crimes)?

And the NFL, for their unwillingness to have the playing field be a soapbox for political statements about the treatment of African Americans, by police?

You must surely note that many people who have recently jumped on the anti-Blizzard bandwagon are totally OK to continue patronizing those two organizations...

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by desine »

streb-lo wrote: post #17
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #4

This is a crisis point for everyone who supports political free speech. Every corporation and business person is watching this to see which hurts their bottom line less, suppressing free speech globally, or angering China. As consumers, we must make sure that they get the message loud and clear that suppressing free speech globally on behalf of China is going to hurt their bottom line far more than China will. Otherw…

> is going to hurt their bottom line far more than China will. Yea right. a) China has a huge market and b) most people don't really care. Go to /r/hearthstone or /r/wow and browse by new. People don't care.

I have no evidence, but I am willing to bet there is a large China based disinformation campaign regarding players and their opinions.

Right now nothing should be taken at face value, nobody should be taking their feelings from someone else's reddit comment. Not that I'm holding my breath.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by humble_engineer »

I'm so sick and tired of seeing a company silence free speech, but then as soon as someone doesn't agree with what is being said, the answer is, "but they are a private business." Have some god damn principles, either you support free speech, or you don't, it doesn't matter what is being said, imbeciles.

Re: Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event

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Post by streb-lo »

lucasmullens wrote: post #23
streb-lo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is going to hurt their bottom line far more than China will. Yea right. a) China has a huge market and b) most people don't really care. Go to /r/hearthstone or /r/wow and browse by new. People don't care.

I just looked at https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/new/ and 2 of the 3 first posts are about China.

That's not really representative. 5/30 posts are about HK and of those 5 I counted the post that says "I don't care bout HK stuff."

Across all the blizzard subs except maybe /r/blizzard it's almost business as usual.

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