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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by Grimm665 »

dleslie wrote: post #451
llimllib wrote: post #240

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I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

Stay far away from Gnome3; it's a performance, usability and accessibility dumpster fire. MATE, XFCE, LXDE and KDE are all better choices.

Funnily, I find I am most productive in Gnome 3, despite its many flaws. The workflow that revolves around the super key to view, launch, and switch between windows and desktops works very well, and I have not been able to fully recreate the same experience in any of the other DEs (though I haven't tried Budgie).

One big change that helped reduce the performance lag is turning off animations using the Tweak Tool. It was like a breath of fresh air once I made that adjustment.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by McAtNite »

enos wrote: post #653
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The title might indeed be flamebait, but I can relate to parts of the rant: - after 2 years, my LG Ultrafine 5K still won't turn on at least once a week. During the first year, it was even freezing the MBP (monitor is up to date). - after 2 years using it, touch bar still feels like a miss, a toy gadget, now I need to carry an external keyboard (together with many dongles). And touch bar is still buggy, I have to swi…

kernel_task is due to high temperature on the left thunderbolt ports caused by charging. Plug your charger into the right side instead and it'll go away in about 15 seconds. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/363337/how-to-find... Took me a long time to figure out too. I had the same frustration, that there is no way to debug the problem. A debug kernel is a PITA.

As someone running my 2015 MPB into the ground this sounds absolutely insane. I love MacOS, but this is on par with the “you’re holding it wrong” insanity. I really hope Apple gets their newer MBP straightened out before I have to buy a new laptop.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by Spooky23 »

derefr wrote: post #360
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You’re always fighting upstream that way. Even at a massive enterprise with a 9 figure account relationship with Microsoft, they just won’t fix issues after a few weeks of release. The product groups will rope a dope you until you hit some product cycle milestone and then tell you to fuck off. The company has laid off or reallocated everyone and moved them to Azure. It’s Windows latest or bust. Since Apple is a shits…

I mean, the GP and most people who hear "fighting the Windows update cycle" assume you mean "fighting against being forced to interrupt your work and reboot to update" (the constant complain among Windows users) rather than something about intentionally avoiding new versions of the OS. If you were an OS company and it were possible to force everyone to be running on master (and thereby not have any security vulnerabi…

That's one perspective.

Microsoft moved to a model where addressing security updates, non-security failures and feature enhancements in rolled together into one stream of change.

You need to look at your risks systematically. If you're a billboard provider, uptime matters, and you update when risks exist that you don't have other controls for. In an individual or corporate use case, ymmv. Some people want the bleeding edge all of the time. Other people want a stable user and application experience, and apply fixes for security or functional errata only.

People ultimately make choices. From what I see, many people are doing the stuff that matters to them to the perceived stability of their phone. Schools are increasingly Chrome-focused. Enterprises are still Microsoft, but they are spending too much on Windows.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by GordonS »

deepGem wrote: post #3

"There is only True Way of installing software: using the Apple store. If you do anything else you are bad and you should feel bad." Isn't this sentiment a bit excessive. Homebrew is a perfectly safe and accepted way of installing software.

I'm no fan of MacOS, but I certainly agree with you on this point - there are a multitude of ways to install software on MacOS, and it doesn't go out of it's way to prevent me from using those.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by oriolid »

ahartmetz wrote: post #622
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Enterprise is also the inspiration behind Dilbert. I agree that Windows is nowhere as bad as it was in the 90s and early 2000s and OS X isn't as good as it was in 2014, but software development on Windows is still slightly painful.

Windows 2000 was actually pretty nice, it was my favorite Windows. It was an already quite refined member of the NT series and also the last no-nonsense NT. XP felt garish and annoying, even though the actual technology improved overall, especially with the service packs.

Windows 2000 SP3 was felt really nice compared to constant crashing with 95/98 and XP's ugly UI and again increased crashes. But if you try 2000 now, it's clumsy and it was only SP3 that was finally stable.

XP could be easily improved by just switching to classic UI style and any wallpaper other than the default teletubbyland. Still I think 7 was the first Windows that didn't need reboot at least once per day and would't give blue screens.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by proverbialbunny »

lzol wrote: post #217
proverbialbunny wrote: post #85

I've been on MacOS since 5 (mac classic). I went to Win 2000 and XP for a while but came back at 10.3. On average every 2 years I'd pick up a few distros of Linux, play with it, then drop it and go back to OS X. This continued until recently. This last year I've been on Linux for the first time. Specifically, Linux Mint. OS X hasn't been going in a direction I strongly care for (10.6 was my favorite, as well as Windo…

Mint is such a wonderful distro for people who want to use Linux but don't want to mess with things. I'm glad you've been enjoying it so far. Canonical really dropped the ball with how great a no-config, no-bullshit distro can be. Ubuntu felt like it was on this path 10 years ago before they started adding all the unnecessary bullshit. I'm glad Mint is the fork that picked up the slack.

>I'm glad you've been enjoying it so far.

Thanks for the kind words. ^_^

I might be unusual, but I never cared for Ubuntu, even when everyone was raving about it.

I like to minimize whitespace. While my monitor is decently sized, too many distros have a horizontal bar on the top and the bottom of the screen. It feels like wasted space. Mint doesn't do that, and it's professional looking. It's dark theme looks and feels great too.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by tekknik »

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right clicking with option held is difficult? you’re not a mac user so maybe you didn’t realize this but the option key is used to modify many things (like promptless shutdown/restart/trash empty). click open a menu and press option and you’ll seem some menus entirely change. Also Finder absolutely does support showing the path, and right clicking on any node gives you the option to copy the path as a string.

Having to use a keyboard modifier and a mouse right-click and then traversing down a menu to pick the correct option to copy the path is indeed annoying. It really should be one or the other, and ideally you should be able to do the same both ways because it is a lot faster to just be able to do it via keyboard shortcuts if you are used to navigating your filemanager via keyboard. Windows also lets you Shift+right cl…

i feel like you’re complaining about minor issues. if you really find this one thing annoying enough to write off a whole OS then you’re being a bit ridiculous. most of us are tech savvy so why are you using the GUI anyways when you have unix?

either way, to each their own.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by feanaro »

computerex wrote: post #559
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As with the other comment saying "have you used X/Y command" it is funny, given the original article. Someone should setup a list of all these "tricks" and non-standard "patches" that people have to use in Linux after installing it so that it works decently. Nowadays my desktop PC is a Linux (Mint) one. I like it, and I use it for several things, including gaming. But I don't kid me, the usability is utter crap, and…

Why do you think the usability is crap? Can you be more specific? I haven't had any issues with audio/bluetooth/wifi and many many people at my workplace use linux for development and I haven't heard about audio/wifi related issues since maybe 10 years ago.

Yeah, I don't get it. I set it up for a lot of my family, including grandpas and whatnot, taught them how to upgrade packages and basically forgot about it. With Windows that was never possible.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by fragmede »

jamesponddotco wrote: post #543
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The answer, which is far more practical these days, given the proliferation of computers, is setup netconsole (to an RPi?), and get debug messages out of the kernel, assuming the crashed aren't MCE errors that are logged to bios and reported on bootup. The other bit to rail against, is closed source drivers and blobs. They'll crash the kernel, and debugging those are basically impossible.

While I agree with this, and I will end up troubleshooting the issue and figuring it out this week, it kinda proves my point. I would not need something like this in macOS. On the other hand, if I did, I don't have the same troubleshooting power I would have with Linux. I guess /u/nkoren is right, computing in 2019 sucks.

It proves your point, but puts up a new one: netconsole isn't possible on OS X outside of Cupertino. I don't want to have to work at Apple to debug this issue that exists on Radar, outside of public view, but isn't reliably reproducible, and isn't even possible to fix in the next release OS X, or a custom kext.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by 35787 »

gfdgsgaagrhstrs wrote: post #517
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> 1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI ... Apple's adapter only goes to 4k@30Hz. Which have you found to work? My monitor only has usb-c and two 4k hdmi@60 and two HDMI 4k@30. It's also annoying that Netflix on Mac doesn't do 4k where even my lowly Surface Go does.

That's not true anymore: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MUF82AM/A/usb-c-digital-a...

What’s the alternative? How about a school that does what it’s supposed to? A school where teachers have agency, where kids aren’t allowed to physically assault one another, where creative thought is encouraged instead of stifled. Where students aren’t made to wake up at the crack of fucking dawn and wear giant backpacks everywhere fucking up their backs. You vapid fucking idiot. How is it fucking poor kids over to have that? How am I wrong for being angry or advocating alternatives in light of the fact that there are so vanishingly few public schools that are any good at all? You are clearly the product of one
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