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Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Fruit juice is different from sugar water in some ways (for example, apple juice has sorbitol, which promotes bowel movement), but in my view the differences don't matter and they should both be covered under this ban. That much sugar with no bulk is just unnatural and should be viewed as a dessert.

It's always nice when other people decide what I should eat on the assumption that I can't consume in healthy moderation.

Banning advertising doesn't stop you eating what you want.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…

Should we stop people from doing high risk activities in general? Mountain climbing? Sky diving? Those impact society as well, and my medicinal expenses are higher when they get hurt.

When I learned skydiving in the early 2000s, I did about 50 skydive jumps; I was still a rookie. In France, where I learned, I found the industry very well regulated with the highest security standards. I am glad I was able to enjoy this in the safest possible conditions.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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"This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets." Which is the case in many countries including mine. When they enacted the law I was still a youngster driving his motorcycle, constantly speeding and doing those things people do in their 20s. I hated that law, then a few accidents and fractures later I realized that the "stupid" law probably saved my parents from the horror of outliving me. I'm also for 100%…

Only as anecdata, I got my first motorcycle at 14 and that was several years before any Law made helmets compulsory. My dad (who also was a motorcyclist) when giving me the bike told me that the helmet and gloves were the keys to start the engine: "no helmet, no gloves, you cannot start the bike." A lot of friends didn't have the same imprimatur , and since it was not compulsory, rode happily their bikes without prot…

For some reason this was one of the easiest rules from my father that I followed without problem. It felt natural from day 1. And being 15yo you don't normally agree with parents.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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I would like to see a ban on all ads. I am sick of them. I resent with all my heart that wherever I go I'm bombared with propaganda for products. Nobody should have the right to hijack other peoples attention.

In the absence of official advertising I have a feeling companies would just move to "native advertising", or sponsorships, or paying people to make comments on HN. Being influenced without knowing who the influencer is.

they do both already

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Just ban all ads and be done with it. Really don't understand why it's taking us (collectively) so long to get there.

Ads can have positive effects for society too. Say your hotel is empty and you advertise half price rooms - everyone one wins compared with that being banned.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Banning outright vs removing ads is an entirely different ballpark. Adults should have autonomy over their body so long as it does not infringe on others. It's not up to authorities to decide whether individuals trade long term health for short term enjoyment.

It certainly infringes on others in any country with a publicly funded health care system. The individual's bodily abuse is paid for by everybody else.

Add a soda tax that covers the healthcare burden

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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"If you ban all ads -- less people will be using good products and services, and that will make our economy less effective." That's a strange conclusion, since all products, including terrible ones are advertised. In fact ads are essentially content-free and don't help people decide if a product is good or not. They have zero correlation with the quality of a product. Some countries like France and Germany have indep…

but they also allow the advertisers to use the test results in their ads. and that's effective. if i see a test-result in an ad i do pay attention (if i am in the market for that kind of product)

That would work just as well if they print the results on the packaging (which they do).

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…

This is not like forcing motorcycle rivers to wear helmets. This is like banning cigarette ads on public spaces.

Cheap sugary food, like cigarettes, get most of their buyers from addicts getting dopamine hits from the ads. This is specially bad because of the unhealthiness of this food, and was definitely the right choice.

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Banning products that a sub-population of people are effectively addicted to has a long, multi-instance history of not working and instead contributing to crime (see various drug prohibitions). A product being banned can actually be a form of advertising (or at least production of demand) by suggesting it is risky, cool, or potent in some way. On the other hand, banning advertising for a category of products, or rest…

Banning the sale of != banning the thing itself. If the goal was a massive reduction, not total elimination, I think it would work. Would many people really go to the black market to get sugary Coke when the supermarket has shelves of Diet Coke available?

Ah, I see what you're saying, thanks!
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