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And in the US, they started using 3 "different kinds of sugars" to make sugar appear lower on the list of ingredients that are sorted by quantity... i.e.: sugar, high fructose corn syrup & corn syrup
"They" started that at least 20 years ago, probably 30+ years ago. I saw it myself in 1999.
Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks
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Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks
#82"In addition to an ad ban, the ministry announced that sugary drinks would also be required to display a color-coded, front-of-pack nutrition label to list nutritional quality and sugar content." I like Japanese/Taiwanese approach which list percentage of fruit juice (front-of-pack). And manufacturers can't cheat with substitutes like apple cause it doesn't count. This is way more useful for consumers to decide what…
The UK has a similar "traffic light" system[0] on their foods. I cannot speak to everyone, but for me seeing red salt makes me look again at other options. It is a gentle nudge but helps. By contrast US food labeling is an anti-pattern. "Serving size" seems arbitrary and makes it impossible to compare foods even directly next to one another on the shelf (plus they're intentionally unrealistic, like a single chocolate…
I've a wrapper of a 200g chocolate bar here - sadly now all eaten. Nutrition is per 100g and per 40g serving, except there were 8 rows of 4 chunks in the bar. So a 40g "serving" is 6.4 chunks! Traffic lights on the front are based on the same 40g.
A sane and actually achievable serving would have to be 50g.
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#83I'm not opposed to this but it strikes me as somewhat weak - if you think something is bad enough to ban visibility of it, why not just go all the way and ban the thing itself. Same with smoking, alcohol, etc. Of course, prohibition doesn't have a terribly successful history but the whole approach seems odd and inconsistent to me. I guess the rationale is a pragmatic de-normalising of toxic and addictive but currentl…
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#84I would like to see a ban on all ads. I am sick of them. I resent with all my heart that wherever I go I'm bombared with propaganda for products. Nobody should have the right to hijack other peoples attention.
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#85The big thing lately in Singapore, Tokyo, Malaysia is "brown sugar milk tea". I think it's hit NYC and LA but basically you take a tapoica milk tea but before you put the milk and tea in you coat the sides of the plastic cup with brown sugar syrup. Then, instead of the old tea + milk it's now like tea + cream and far more cream than tea such that it's more like sweetened tea flavored milk than milk flavored tea.
Search for "Tiger Sugar" for I guess the brand the started the new style?
https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&q=tiger+sugar&tbm=...
There are apparently the equivilant of 20 teaspoons of sugar in 1 drink. Compare to 330ml of Coke which is about 7 teaspoons of sugar. The Malaysian government put out a warning as they got super popular.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/07/25/health-mi...
I'm curious why now in Tokyo. Tapioca Milk Tea was popular in Taiwan in the 90s and made it Los Angeles in the late 90s early 2000s. People tried for years to bring it to Japan and I was told it was too sweet for Japanese tastes. But, now it's even sweeter and has some how exploded in popularity to a ridiculous level. It's like every spare store front has started selling.
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#86Singapore goes opposite direction as most countries. Personally I think sugar tax is way powerful. Those money can be used to educate people. Banning ads is not going to educate people.
I'd prefer a world where people choose to smoke less and eat healthier. I'm curious what methods are most effective. I believe it was going lower in the USA for a while but then blew up again with vaping? And you only have to visit almost any place in the USA to see we're failing at convincing people to eat healthy.
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#87In 2010-11 Singapore there used to be close to zero non-sugary drinks at convenience stores. Even all the teas used to be sweet. Lately they started carrying Japanese brands of non-sweetened tea but for a while if you wanted non-sweet tea you had to make it yourself. Which of course is probably better for the planet but if you're just out and about and wanted a drink from a 7/11 your options were pretty slim. The big…
I believe it was around 2011 that the more premium bubble tea vendors in Singapore started offering a choice of how much syrup to add to one's drink (Koi Cafe, which may or may not have originated from Taiwan, might have started this trend).
I'm surprised that this particular service hasn't made its way to Japan.
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#89Singapore goes opposite direction as most countries. Personally I think sugar tax is way powerful. Those money can be used to educate people. Banning ads is not going to educate people.
Does it work? I think I'm mostly for the ban but as for a tax... Alcohol is 4x the price in SG vs the USA because of taxes. Has that lowered the percentage of drinkers? SG also has a high tax on cigarettes I believe and they have those really disgusting images of disfigured people from smoking issues on every package yet I believe smoking is growing in SG (please correct me if I'm wrong). I'd prefer a world where peo…
Singaporean here. I can get my $2 beers and $12 bottles of wine at the supermarket, so alcohol isn't that expensive. On the other hand, drinking at a restaurant or bar is expensive, but moreso because rent in Singapore is crazy.
I'm not sure about the smoking rates, but I reckon that it has gone down among the younger generation because there's so much else to spend their money on these days — and smoking was recently banned on Orchard Road, which is the main shopping district.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
"They" started that at least 20 years ago, probably 30+ years ago. I saw it myself in 1999.
thanks for the info., I didn't know when it started, but either way, it sounds wrong... pretty sure it wouldn't affect most recipes to use only one kind of sugar