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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

Stay far away from Gnome3; it's a performance, usability and accessibility dumpster fire.

MATE, XFCE, LXDE and KDE are all better choices.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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I still maintain that the problem is the UI toolkits. The mac ecosystem now has _multiple_ viable indesign and photoshop alternatives. AppKit, Cocoa, UIKit and all those frameworks gradually added all the features third party app developers hacked into their own UI libraries. GTK is something developers frequently curse about and theme developers frequently abandon because the gnome team keeps breaking their themes.…

And if you use the Apple toolkits, you lose around 95% of your potential market. For my project, Krita, made with Qt (not QT, Qt...), 90% of downloads are Windows, 7% Linux, 3% macOS. And since Apple seems hell-bent on making people share-croppers in their walled garden with asinine things like Metal, and notarizing and all that, well, in a year or two, it might be 0%, and I'll be fine with that.

Krita is great (and I happen to be one of your 3%!).

Given that macOS has a reputation, deserved or not, of being the de facto OS for graphic designers, why do you think you have so relatively few Mac users?

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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I grew up using Windows and after 20 years switched to Mac and could not believe I had waited for so long. What parts of Windows do you prefer over MacOS?

I use both Windows and Mac. I find Windows file management and window management to be much better. Love the preview you get when you hover over an app icon in the taskbar. Also love how windows don't automatically take up the entire screen. I like to have two windows open simultaneously. This is much smoother on Windows than Mac. I also prefer Windows' taskbar instead of Mac's dock. The negative is changing preferen…

> I like to have two windows open simultaneously. This is much smoother on Windows than Mac.

Have you tried Magnet? It’s a macOS app that supplies the window snap/tile features that Windows has. It’s one of the first things I install on a new system (along with Display Menu and f.lux).

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

Use Fedora! It's a significantly better user-experience and has better support for hi-DPI screens.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

Windows is inferior to MacOS?

Bold claim given Enterprise exclusively uses Windows.

Your opinion might tarnish your reputation

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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I use both Windows and Mac. I find Windows file management and window management to be much better. Love the preview you get when you hover over an app icon in the taskbar. Also love how windows don't automatically take up the entire screen. I like to have two windows open simultaneously. This is much smoother on Windows than Mac. I also prefer Windows' taskbar instead of Mac's dock. The negative is changing preferen…

Windows is doing a good job of ruining file management/Explorer in Window 10 I've never had Explorer crash so damn much. Another of my least-favorite features is how they group your files by recently used now. Ugh. Then you have Quick Access, Recently Used, 'Places'....

Explorer crashing you say? You must not have had the incredible experience of using Windows ME :D

I agree on all of the quick access, recent etc garbage. I disabled at installs after I finally upgraded to Win 10.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Everything you have listed is solvable by using a different distribution/desktop environment. You can use something like Manjaro to get really up to date software, and it comes with different desktop environment flavors like Cinnamon. I think a more modern desktop environment would suit you best, and I highly recommend Cinnamon.

This is my issue with Linux, though, despite having a dev VM environment of several distros. There are a metric f*ckton of Linux distros out there and, for every one of them that fixes the problems mentioned in one breath, they break or ignore a whole litany of other things. When I first started with Linux, it was pretty much Red Hat or bust and that was a pain but you knew what you were getting into. Now, it's nearl…

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It's not like things just work on Windows or Mac either. I use all 3 very regularly for many purposes and the annoyance rate for things like hardware is roughly the same on all of them. With Linux, I can at least get a desktop that behaves like I want it to and a package manager that handles _all_ updates: kernel, browser, CLI tools, etc. Why don't you just let other people form their own opinions instead of poisoning the discussion with this nonsense?

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Windows 10 on the "happy path" (the right hardware) works very well. My desktop machine is a box by ThinkMate (dual Xeon, 256 GB Ram, Dual 2080 video cards, dual 5K monitors). It "just works" -- including all the power management functions sleep, hibernate, monitor sleep, wake on ethernet, fan control, etc. Super quiet unless all the GPUs are running full blast. My laptop is a Surface Book. Again, it "just works". Pl…

Props for escaping the Apple cult for Windows, but I'm sorry, how much RAM? Why does anyone need that much RAM? And more importantly, how much did it cost?

My work threadripper was 128G @ $1100(usd) last month for non-ecc ram. Server at twice that decency is likely a pretty penny.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Been using macOS and Ubuntu for years now, and while I try to make Ubuntu my primary operating system so I can ditch my slow MacBook Air 2018, I always end up going back to it. Look, I love Ubuntu. Heck, I am a recognized Ubuntu Member, was the leader of the LoCo Team for my country for a while, helped a few universities in my state switch to Ubuntu from Windows, have a plaque signed by Mark Shuttleworth acknowledgin…

> the entire computer freezes from time to time Hate to point out what may be obvious, but since this is a self-build, have you entirely eliminated hardware issues? Bad connections or components that just don’t jive properly together? Just saying cause the first thing that came to mind when you described the issue is something similar I had a while back with mismatched RAM; it doesnt sound as though the comparison co…

Yep, already did rule these things out — it also doesn't happen in Ubuntu 18.04 or Windows, only on Ubuntu 19.04.

My guess is that this is a kernel or GPU driver issue, since it doesn't happen in Ubuntu 18.04, but it will take time to find exactly which version of the kernel get this to stop.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Windows 10 works marginally better. Both remain vastly inferior to MacOs. That's where I'm stuck. We're all-in at our house on Apple stuff. I'm no Windows hater per se, hell, I used to work at Microsoft and my wife still does. And there was a time that I'd say about Mac OS: "this is what an operating system should be". Oh, you most certainly disagree, but bear with me. I don't say that anymore. Too much half-assed sh…

Just get a 2015 MBP. These are the last ones with MagSafe and more than Thunderbolt 3 ports.

Why did Apple ever remove MagSafe? Makes no sense to me.
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