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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by bluedino »

puranjay wrote: post #322
jonwinstanley wrote: post #264

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I grew up using Windows and after 20 years switched to Mac and could not believe I had waited for so long. What parts of Windows do you prefer over MacOS?

I use both Windows and Mac. I find Windows file management and window management to be much better. Love the preview you get when you hover over an app icon in the taskbar. Also love how windows don't automatically take up the entire screen. I like to have two windows open simultaneously. This is much smoother on Windows than Mac. I also prefer Windows' taskbar instead of Mac's dock. The negative is changing preferen…

Windows is doing a good job of ruining file management/Explorer in Window 10

I've never had Explorer crash so damn much. Another of my least-favorite features is how they group your files by recently used now. Ugh.

Then you have Quick Access, Recently Used, 'Places'....

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by jadbox »

kn100 wrote: post #211
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

W.r.t your hidpi/non-hidpi issue - a 'proper' solution is slowly making its way out of the woodwork. Wayland apparently will allow us to solve this problem, but in the meantime here's my solution if it'll help you. I have a 4k dell xps 13 and a 2k monitor. I have this script set up to run on boot. https://gist.github.com/kn100/7193667d393fcf34d4d5c6c359a695... What this does is it forces your internal display to run…

Do you have any links or feature tracker for the Wayland development?

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by ulises314 »

This looks a little unfair to 2000's Linux fanboys (which of course included me): The well maintained, comprehensive, tested list of software, mirrors and checksums that Debian had and inspired other distros to emulate were a godsend compared to downloading a code tar file and hunt dependencies manually (when not modifying code yourself), you were always free to use other channels, but other channels were just usually worst; all other points seem to have similar nuances, from a user point of view situation is similar but is actually a real problem out of scope of developers (Linux) vs. Apple just being jerks.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by bluedino »

puranjay wrote: post #322
jonwinstanley wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up using Windows and after 20 years switched to Mac and could not believe I had waited for so long. What parts of Windows do you prefer over MacOS?

I use both Windows and Mac. I find Windows file management and window management to be much better. Love the preview you get when you hover over an app icon in the taskbar. Also love how windows don't automatically take up the entire screen. I like to have two windows open simultaneously. This is much smoother on Windows than Mac. I also prefer Windows' taskbar instead of Mac's dock. The negative is changing preferen…

Love the preview you get when you hover over an app icon in the taskbar.

I'm not sure why Apple hasn't added this as a native feature. Hyperdock has had it for years.

I even wrote my own little proof-of-concept version of it:

https://github.com/robilic/DockHand

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by bluedino »

newscracker wrote: post #353
puranjay wrote: post #322

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I use both Windows and Mac. I find Windows file management and window management to be much better. Love the preview you get when you hover over an app icon in the taskbar. Also love how windows don't automatically take up the entire screen. I like to have two windows open simultaneously. This is much smoother on Windows than Mac. I also prefer Windows' taskbar instead of Mac's dock. The negative is changing preferen…

> The negative is changing preferences... Windows is so poorly designed that I still wonder why there's Settings as well as Control Panel offering mostly the same settings, and old settings dialogs from Windows XP or Windows 2000 are still around!

The double control panels is such a Microsoft-ism. The network control panel has become so convulted...

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by bluedino »

Mindwipe wrote: post #339
jonwinstanley wrote: post #264

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I grew up using Windows and after 20 years switched to Mac and could not believe I had waited for so long. What parts of Windows do you prefer over MacOS?

Window management has really stagnated in MacOS. All the focus has been on full screen apps rather than useful tools like dragging to the side to splitscreen as Windows has. Apple should have long since sherlocked BetterSnapTool.

Oddly enought they are doing it 'right' with iPad multitasking.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by harshitaneja »

llimllib wrote: post #329
harshitaneja wrote: post #318

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Which version of gnome are you on? >No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) I just checked gnome settings and it has option to change touchpad speed. Don't have a mouse so can't comment for that but it should be there. >To make an icon on the favorites bar i…

> Which version of gnome are you on? 3.24 I think? whatever the ubuntu beta is using. > I just checked gnome settings and it has option to change touchpad speed. Don't have a mouse so can't comment for that but it should be there. I can assure you it is not edit to add issue link: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/3... > Open the app and right click the app icon in dock(if that is what you me…

I am on Gnome 3.32.2. I remembered Ubuntu lagged behind but didn't know this much.

Maybe the touchpad speed is added in later versions of gnome.

Your keyboard shortcut use case is much more complex than mine and I haven't used Karabiner(though I should try because until now I am hating my mac experience and I am stuck with a mac as a daily driver for the past month).

It should be possible to use multiple keyboards with different layouts and shortcuts as a colleague of mine used to use his build this way. I have always been on the road so don't have the luxury. https://superuser.com/questions/351936/separate-keyboard-for...

I don't use kitty but use alacritty and there is an option for changing the copy and paste shortcuts. So you can use command+c for copy. Also for your original query about command-c ctrl-shift-c have you tried setting it up as a macro? Maybe that would work.

> I'm glad they have that, but I don't want to give my browser that security hole, so I grant you that one's a bit on me. Should be easier to do a manual installation anyway.

I worry about this as well. I used to use this but later realised that I don't need new extensions and just use my existing list so I made a script for this which has been serving me well for some time now. Though with my shift to i3 my gnome use is quite limited for a few years now so can't say if it would hold for routine use case.

> I do not at all mean to trash the hard work people have done, I really (truly!) respect it. However, from this particular user's perspective, the problems are about equal to what they were a decade ago.

Agreed. A long road to travel.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by ulises314 »

Mindwipe wrote: post #332
puranjay wrote: post #310

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I don't know how we came to this point. Laptops in 2019 certainly suck across the board. A good keyboard is almost impossible to find and reliability isn't a thing we even consider. In contrast, I don't think there has ever been a better time for desktops. Mechanical keyboards have become fashionable again, AMD has brought the fight to Intel's table, and GPUs have never been faster and cheaper.

Although all major OSes are still a massive pain even on Desktops currently.

Really? I run Raspbian, Windows and FreeBSD on my home on different machines for different purposes, and though all three have their weaknesses, they are much better than they were two decades ago.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by snagglegaggle »

taurath wrote: post #338
esotericn wrote: post #291

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Gnome (3) is just a bit crap. It's the Windows DE of the GNU/Linux world. It's explicitly designed to be boring and not very customizable so that delicate users don't get scared. I use i3 and basically everything is configured via text files. Keyboard shortcuts are trivial etc. You don't need Karabiner to "rebind" because you can directly bind. You don't need to go scary tiling WM, Xfce probably works well, it's been…

I tend to feel like there’s already enough roadblocks in the way to get things done. I used to tinker around with my OSs but now I want them out of the way to a large extent.

Stating it that way makes it seem like you're opposed to learning something new. That's fine, but a lot of people including GP just looked once and never did anything else.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by steveklabnik »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #219
DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #164

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With respect, you post wasn't very condescending.

Here’s my fix: “Oh, please. People don’t _actually use_ macs while drinking their lattes anymore (except maybe ironically). Lenovo (running Windows with the Linux Subsystem enabled) is the only halfway decent way to get work done. Unless of course you’re one of those hipsters running Arch. I’ve been meaning to try that, actually.” -actual 2019 computing hipster, probably

I switched to Windows (no WSL) a few years back, and have been making the joke that real hipsters use Windows natively these days ever since.
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