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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by Razengan »

sarah180 wrote: post #382

Is this satire of the ridiculous false equivalencies so often employed in modern rhetoric? Does the author really think using a Mac in 2019 is a complicated and fiddly as using a Linux machine in 2000? Or are people just upvoting something because it's the kind of lazy hot take that's candy for socially ranked sites like this? This is why I believe sites like HN and Reddit often make their readers dumber despite surf…

Whenever something gets upvoted very fast in a manner that doesn't seem consistent with a site's regular usage, suspect that it's botted/been paid for by rival companies.

Anything getting 300+ points in 3 hours is rarely organic. There's almost nothing else currently on the front page with this kind of votes/time ratio, besides the post about Google banning accounts.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by disiplus »

vetinari wrote: post #331
disiplus wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sure but with hidpi display most of my apps are blurry, of browsers firefox nightly has it but chrome does not, intelij, vscode and so on.

Only with the experimental fractional scaling enabled. If you disable it, your X11 apps will be sharp too. (No, I don't know why it still isn't fixed yet.)

the laptop has a 13 3:2 display with 2160x1440

i cannot run it at 200, 150 is perfect, i need fractional scaling

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by FPGAhacker »

bluedino wrote: post #366
Mindwipe wrote: post #339

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Window management has really stagnated in MacOS. All the focus has been on full screen apps rather than useful tools like dragging to the side to splitscreen as Windows has. Apple should have long since sherlocked BetterSnapTool.

Oddly enought they are doing it 'right' with iPad multitasking.

It's a bit screwy with iOS 13. Safari in particular.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by phatfish »

nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I have Fedora 30 running KDE as a desktop in a VM and a laptop. In the VM its actually very nice. Dolphin is nicer than Explorer, with tabs and better view options. The desktop customization options work well and I can set it up very similar to a Windows task bar as I am used to.

The most annoying issue I've noticed is that copy and paste would stop working cross application sometimes (pretty poor). But turning off an "auto copy on select" option seems to fix that. Still an issue as its broken by default.

The laptop (AMD Matebook) is a different story. There is just not the hardware testing capacity that Microsoft and their hardware vendors provide. So kernel updates will break hibernate/sleep, or it has never worked. The trackpad will stop responding to taps after resuming, and other issues. There are also some minor graphical issues but that's mainly down to AMD drivers.

KDE is the best its ever been. The issues come from hardware issues that can never be fully tested and fixed without a vendor taking Linux support seriously.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by gimboland »

erikbye wrote: post #295
machello13 wrote: post #290

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> Does it still have weird modals where you're forced to use the mouse to select an option? I don't think I've ever encountered a modal like this. Not with "Use keyboard navigation to move focus between controls" turned on. By keyboard-based window management you mean being able to tile windows? That can be added with a third-party app pretty easily, but I think it's much a much less fundamental problem than those po…

So that answers my question? You still, in 2019, cannot even move a window/app on the desktop in vanilla macOS using your keyboard? That, to me, is crazy. How can a company with the resources of Apple not implement this basic feature? Simply the equivalent of Windows' win + arrow keys would be a huge improvement. I know third party software offers such features and more, I am simply not interested, some are even paid…

I'll take:

* paying a few bucks for BetterTouchTool, Alfred, and SwitchResX so I get insane levels of control over window placement, monitor resolutions, etc. via keyboard shortcuts & gestures (on, I should note, my deliciously smooth and responsive apple trackpad)

over:

* spending hours/days/weeks trying to figure out/find the right X config to get my display to work at one resolution I want, let alone trying to figure out how to dynamically switch between configurations without everything crashing every fifth attempt"

any day of the week.

(Now, to be fair, like many others in this thread I hopped off the linux/freebsd/etc. train a few years ago (after being all-in for around a decade), so it's a few years since I've had that second experience - and maybe that particular struggle is no longer a struggle any more. Judging from other comments in this thread, however, it doesn't sound like it.)

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by [deleted] »

Spooky23 wrote: post #296
erikbye wrote: post #278

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Regarding Windows update cycle, you have the option of using LTSC, pausing updates for up to 35 days (yes, that's a built-in option now), or adjust update settings with GPO.

You’re always fighting upstream that way. Even at a massive enterprise with a 9 figure account relationship with Microsoft, they just won’t fix issues after a few weeks of release. The product groups will rope a dope you until you hit some product cycle milestone and then tell you to fuck off. The company has laid off or reallocated everyone and moved them to Azure. It’s Windows latest or bust. Since Apple is a shits…

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by karmakaze »

threeseed wrote: post #20

1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI or VGA connections. It doesn't even make any sense since MacBook Pro users with external, third party monitors are an extremely common combination. 2. I just downloaded Caret (Markdown editor) from their website and used Homebrew to install a CLI tool. Nothing has changed between the current OSX and previous ones. 3. If you have a tech support issue go into the Apple Sto…

> 1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI ...

Apple's adapter only goes to 4k@30Hz. Which have you found to work? My monitor only has usb-c and two 4k hdmi@60 and two HDMI 4k@30.

It's also annoying that Netflix on Mac doesn't do 4k where even my lowly Surface Go does.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by foldr »

threeseed wrote: post #20

1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI or VGA connections. It doesn't even make any sense since MacBook Pro users with external, third party monitors are an extremely common combination. 2. I just downloaded Caret (Markdown editor) from their website and used Homebrew to install a CLI tool. Nothing has changed between the current OSX and previous ones. 3. If you have a tech support issue go into the Apple Sto…

>MacBook Pro has 4 USB-C ports.

I agree with what you're saying, but as a pedantic factual correction, the 13" MacBook Pro has two.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by bsg75 »

A critical difference is that Linux circa 2000 was on a path of improvement.

macOS 2019 seems to be sacrificing usability for those of us that frequent HN, in an attempt to be more useful for the iPad crowd.

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