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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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YMMV, but since switching to Wayland I've found issues like that to be a lot less common. Not gone completely, but rare enough that I never remember the last time when it finally occurs again. ;)

sure but with hidpi display most of my apps are blurry, of browsers firefox nightly has it but chrome does not, intelij, vscode and so on.

Only with the experimental fractional scaling enabled. If you disable it, your X11 apps will be sharp too.

(No, I don't know why it still isn't fixed yet.)

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I don't know how we came to this point. Laptops in 2019 certainly suck across the board. A good keyboard is almost impossible to find and reliability isn't a thing we even consider. In contrast, I don't think there has ever been a better time for desktops. Mechanical keyboards have become fashionable again, AMD has brought the fight to Intel's table, and GPUs have never been faster and cheaper.

Although all major OSes are still a massive pain even on Desktops currently.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Though I am not a "condescending elitist hipster latte drinker" (or at least I hope I am not), I agree with most of OPs sentiments. I would like to see Apple invest more into making sure their stuff "just works", because that's why I use their systems: they are the least-crappy of anything that is out there today.

> least-crappy In the meantime, Windows "just works."

I won't pick up the bait here, but I'll just say that I regularly use Mac OS, Windows and Linux, and I have good reasons for saying that Mac OS sucks the least of those three systems for desktop use.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Everything you have listed is solvable by using a different distribution/desktop environment. You can use something like Manjaro to get really up to date software, and it comes with different desktop environment flavors like Cinnamon. I think a more modern desktop environment would suit you best, and I highly recommend Cinnamon.

I concur. Manjaro solves a lot of the problems of the Linux desktop, and brings with it the great Arch community. And for keybindings, you're probably better off figuring out how xmodmap works. It's not pretty. But honestly, if you want pretty when it comes to keybinding, nothing beats a good keyboard. Like the UHKB, Ergo Dox, anything supported by QMK basically.

Is there good documentation/tutorials on setting up xmodmap? It seems like that's a road I'll need to go down at least a bit.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Not only that, there are and were multiple ways of installing software in Linux, both back in 2000 and now. Notoriously ./autogen.sh && make && make install wasn't mentioned but installing via `rpm|dpkg|apt|yum` is?

> Not only that, there are and were multiple ways of installing software in Linux Technically true, but practically false. To this day I get told that I shouldn't be even trying to use software that isn't in the repo. There are still a whole lot of applications released with a Windows binary and a tar.xz of source for Linux. At DebConf 2014, none other than Linus himself bitched out the community for how difficult di…

AppImage & snapd & flatpak are poor solutions to a real problem. It's better to wait until someone comes up with a good solution than accept a bad one.

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Many of these complaints are resolved by using another desktop environment, e.g. KDE. Others of the distro (use another one if you want up-to-date packages).

I last used KDE about a year ago, so I'm not sure if this is still a problem, but even KDE doesn't let you slow down mouse cursor speed, only make it faster. Is that still the case? They didn't even have a slider for controlling mouse speed, only a numerical text entry. It boggles the mind.

Settings->Input Devices->Mouse

There is a slider for adjusting pointer speed.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

I had a somewhat similar experience with Linux on an old Mac mini a few years ago. Too many things had to be fiddled with using config files and scripts. I had to resort to using a Magic Trackpad like a regular mouse. There was quite a bit missing "out of the box". I will admit that Linux has improved a lot over the years. But I find that macOS seems to be the one with a "batteries included" experience and is the least annoying among Windows, Linux and macOS. While it's possible to setup Linux to one's preferences with some effort, I find Windows to be standing in my way and slowing me down most of the time even for trivial things (I'm looking at you, Windows 10).

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

Gnome (3) is just a bit crap. It's the Windows DE of the GNU/Linux world. It's explicitly designed to be boring and not very customizable so that delicate users don't get scared. I use i3 and basically everything is configured via text files. Keyboard shortcuts are trivial etc. You don't need Karabiner to "rebind" because you can directly bind. You don't need to go scary tiling WM, Xfce probably works well, it's been…

I tend to feel like there’s already enough roadblocks in the way to get things done. I used to tinker around with my OSs but now I want them out of the way to a large extent.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Opinions are a funny thing, I find MacOs vastly inferior to Windows, but I grew up with Windows so I'm biased that way; I'm betting you and people claiming 'the good old days of mac' are biased too.

I grew up using Windows and after 20 years switched to Mac and could not believe I had waited for so long. What parts of Windows do you prefer over MacOS?

Window management has really stagnated in MacOS. All the focus has been on full screen apps rather than useful tools like dragging to the side to splitscreen as Windows has.

Apple should have long since sherlocked BetterSnapTool.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Many of these complaints are resolved by using another desktop environment, e.g. KDE. Others of the distro (use another one if you want up-to-date packages).

I last used KDE about a year ago, so I'm not sure if this is still a problem, but even KDE doesn't let you slow down mouse cursor speed, only make it faster. Is that still the case? They didn't even have a slider for controlling mouse speed, only a numerical text entry. It boggles the mind.

The "Mouse" Systems Setting I have on screen on my up-to-date KDE right now has a slider for pointer speed with no numerical entry. There is only a small handful of other settings that quite useful (acceleration profile, invert scroll direction, and a couple other things). KDE has been working hard on usability lately.
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