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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by posedge »

posedge wrote: post #279
kn100 wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

W.r.t your hidpi/non-hidpi issue - a 'proper' solution is slowly making its way out of the woodwork. Wayland apparently will allow us to solve this problem, but in the meantime here's my solution if it'll help you. I have a 4k dell xps 13 and a 2k monitor. I have this script set up to run on boot. https://gist.github.com/kn100/7193667d393fcf34d4d5c6c359a695... What this does is it forces your internal display to run…

A couple of thoughts: * That's exactly the point. I don't want to give up on my 4k resolution, I specifically bought a laptop with high resolution. * I'm running Ubuntu on my Dell XPS 15. I solved the problem by scaling the external display (--scale 2x2 in xrandr), which also solves the problem but allows me to keep the 4k resolution on the built-in display. The only issue is, that select programs with nonstandard UI…

BTW, this is the command I'm using:

sudo xrandr --output DP-3 --scale 2x2 --mode 1920x1080 --fb 7680x2160 --pos 3840x0 --output eDP-1 --mode 3840x2160 --pos 0x0

DP-3 being my external full-HD display, placed to the right.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by zajd »

jonwinstanley wrote: post #264
mattigames wrote: post #222

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Opinions are a funny thing, I find MacOs vastly inferior to Windows, but I grew up with Windows so I'm biased that way; I'm betting you and people claiming 'the good old days of mac' are biased too.

I grew up using Windows and after 20 years switched to Mac and could not believe I had waited for so long. What parts of Windows do you prefer over MacOS?

Being able to reliably run it on hardware that isn't marked up to an absurd degree.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by llimllib »

JustFinishedBSG wrote: post #273
llimllib wrote: post #240

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I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

All your points seems like they are trivially solved by using another DE and distribution

your definition of "trivial" is different from mine haha

(fwiw: my propensity for installing new DEs and distros in the hope of solving all my problems was what made me leave linux in the first place)

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by Frondo »

erikbye wrote: post #263
llimllib wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

Many of these complaints are resolved by using another desktop environment, e.g. KDE. Others of the distro (use another one if you want up-to-date packages).

I last used KDE about a year ago, so I'm not sure if this is still a problem, but even KDE doesn't let you slow down mouse cursor speed, only make it faster. Is that still the case?

They didn't even have a slider for controlling mouse speed, only a numerical text entry. It boggles the mind.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by mplanchard »

song wrote: post #26

I do believe that macos is not as stable, performant or well thought out as it used to be. There are also a few recurring bugs that really annoy me (search not working in Apple Mail forcing me to reindex for example) But, I think this article is over the top... I've never had issues with external monitors (nor know anyone who had some), I never use the App store (I oppose it on principle) and when I've had a non stan…

FWIW, my new MacBook using an external dock and USB-C to display port has insane problems. I have to unplug and plug back in at least once per day, and even worse, sometimes after sleep the monitor will work, but typing and clicking will be laggy, which I am sometimes able to resolve only by unplugging the monitor and plugging back in, but other times it requires a restart.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by avip »

kn100 wrote: post #211
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

W.r.t your hidpi/non-hidpi issue - a 'proper' solution is slowly making its way out of the woodwork. Wayland apparently will allow us to solve this problem, but in the meantime here's my solution if it'll help you. I have a 4k dell xps 13 and a 2k monitor. I have this script set up to run on boot. https://gist.github.com/kn100/7193667d393fcf34d4d5c6c359a695... What this does is it forces your internal display to run…

Epic comment :)

If it makes anyone feel better wrt their religion of choice, Mac users have been using scripts in this spirit to force WiFi reconnection on wakeup.

Sent from my iPhone

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by josteink »

fabioborellini wrote: post #44
threeseed wrote: post #20

1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI or VGA connections. It doesn't even make any sense since MacBook Pro users with external, third party monitors are an extremely common combination. 2. I just downloaded Caret (Markdown editor) from their website and used Homebrew to install a CLI tool. Nothing has changed between the current OSX and previous ones. 3. If you have a tech support issue go into the Apple Sto…

So, Apple products should not be used in countries without an Apple Store. Sounds about right.

> So, Apple products should not be used in towns without an Apple Store. Sounds about right.

FTFY.

I don’t care if there’s an Apple-store 50km away if I need my computer working now.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by harshitaneja »

llimllib wrote: post #240
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

Which version of gnome are you on?

>No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff)

I just checked gnome settings and it has option to change touchpad speed. Don't have a mouse so can't comment for that but it should be there.

>To make an icon on the favorites bar in gnome, you have to edit a .desktop text file! Madness. I mean, I'm a programmer, so I'm capable of it, but it's seriously annoying

Open the app and right click the app icon in dock(if that is what you mean by favorites bar) and it should have an option to add to favorites.

>modifying keyboard shortcuts is extremely difficult; I really wish linux had a karabiner equivalent

I have found gnome to have the easiest way to edit all shortcuts. Settings>Devices>Keyboard should show you all the keyboard shortcuts and if you scroll to bottom you will find option to add custom shortcuts which you can set to any command. Much more extensive than the frustrating MacOS keyboard shortcuts in my opinion.

> installing a gnome-shell extension was way more difficult than it should be

https://extensions.gnome.org/ for finding the extensions for installing the extensions on the website use this chrome extension using which all you then have to do is click install while on the website https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gnome-shell-integr... Gnome tweaks to manage them otherwise

> brew isn't the best, but on linux I need to use both brew _and_ apt because you can't reliably get anything approaching up-to-date software with apt

Agreed. That's why I use pacman. Pacman is hands down the best package manager I have ever used. Combined with AUR it has the most extensive up-to-date packages. Pacman is the default package manager for Arch Linux. I use arch, btw. Had to do this :)

I agree linux was in a pretty bad shape a decade ago and we still need to improve a lot but to say it is still the same is ignoring all the hardwork of a large number of wonderful people who have been contributing to the codebase.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by NotATroll »

computerex wrote: post #293
llimllib wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

Everything you have listed is solvable by using a different distribution/desktop environment. You can use something like Manjaro to get really up to date software, and it comes with different desktop environment flavors like Cinnamon. I think a more modern desktop environment would suit you best, and I highly recommend Cinnamon.

I concur. Manjaro solves a lot of the problems of the Linux desktop, and brings with it the great Arch community.

And for keybindings, you're probably better off figuring out how xmodmap works.

It's not pretty. But honestly, if you want pretty when it comes to keybinding, nothing beats a good keyboard. Like the UHKB, Ergo Dox, anything supported by QMK basically.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by airstrike »

lostmsu wrote: post #270
darrmit wrote: post #195

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I came here to say the same. I do have more issues with macOS than I did, say, 5 years ago. However, the constant Windows update cycle is a nightmare and Linux still can't seem to get battery life and things like Bluetooth (audio inputs, etc.) quite right, so I'm left with hoping that Apple gets their stuff back together. Operating system stability just seems to have declined in general in the last 3-5 years.

Can you elaborate on what do you mean by Windows update cycle? I have a Mac Mini, that I rarely touch to check a new release of something on Mac, and practically every time I have to use it, an update is pending. Not sure how this is worse, than Windows.

With Windows it feels the same way, except a lot of what Windows Update does runs silently in the background, sometimes during your most precious computing hours with no way to stop it except force quitting through the Task Manager. And half the time the updates fail. And when you quickly want to shut down sometimes Windows also forces an update...
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