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I tried to hack my insomnia

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Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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>ctrl+F "exercise" >0 results None of the stuff they talk about in the article helped me kick my insomnia/DSPS. Only exercise helped.

Exercise doesn't really work for everyone. I found when I used to have trouble sleeping, heavy lifting made my sleep 10x worse (and still messes with my sleep now when I try it every now and then). Light to moderate exercise tended to improve my sleep, but the improvement was fairly minor. CBT-I and getting some bright light in the morning, on the other hand, were complete game changers for me. I've gone from sleeping maybe 5 - 6.5 hours of poor sleep a night (waking up multiple times, early waking), to normally 7 - 8 hours of good quality sleep and the improvement has been consistent for the past few years now.

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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Counterpoint: I started having the worst insomnia ever after I started lifting. I feel like my adrenaline level is higher now. I love lifting, and it has a lot of benefits, but for me, better sleep is not one of them. I also noticed it made my restless leg syndrome worse. Stretching and getting back on magnesium seems to have helped that, but my sleep quality and duration is still shit.

Tip: since you're on magnesium, try magnesium glycinate if that's not already the kind you take. Glycine helps you sleep, especially if taken at night.

I take 2:1 glycine/proline separately. It helps me sleep but leaves me feeling hungover until about noon.

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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I had so much trouble with insomnia a few years back - I remember not being able to get sleep for at least 3-5 days straight on multiple different occasions. I thought I was going to die at least two of those times it happened.

These days my ability to fall asleep feels like a superpower (because - 1. I know just how absurdly many people out there are functioning on less than optimal sleep on a daily basis, and 2. I know I'm not the only one who has had trouble with falling asleep).

These are the bits of advice I have:

1. I've woken or havent been able to fall asleep because I was hungry. Always try to have eaten at least one satiating meal a day. Also make sure you're not dehydrated or have to pee.

2. Don't ever worry or intentionally think that you have to fall asleep. The stress, the cortisol, and the excitement(when you start falling asleep) will keep you awake. Going one night without sleep is not the end of the world. At worst you were really really relaxed in a nice cozy bed for 8 hours, so take comfort in that time.

3. This one is the most important: think about your brain like its some sort of muscle. If it's engaged its sort of 'flexing', and its very hard to fall asleep if its flexing. If I just 'unflex' my mind the way I would let go of my grip, the next thing I usually notice is that its morning and my alarm clock is waking me up.

Other than these things, everything else I've seen had little affect on my abilities to sleep when I had insomnia - working out until exhaustion out didn't work, neither did weed, neither did alcohol, and neither did induced food coma, reading a book, watching tv, counting sheep. And when I learned again how to fall asleep, I haven't had a problem with blue light, I haven't had a problem with caffeine, I didn't even have a problem with a lot of noise. These things help or hurt your ability to sleep but it doesn't ultimately determine whether or not you do.

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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You can't sleep when there are enemies nearby. Didn't you play Skyrim, Minecraft, Fallout...

Or more seriously you have messed up bloodwork. Get your blood checked. Vitamin D is necessary during day. Seeing the morning light and end of day sun set can actually help.

Or you didn't exercise enough. Various military organisations have sorted out sleep: they can get you tired enough to sleep vertical. Often while still marching.

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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I picked up very serious sleep problems (and seemingly permanent bags under my eyes) right around puberty and lived with it for about twenty years. Tried most of the "hacks" on this page (yes, including exercise) to no avail. It all unexpectedly went away when I moved into my current apartment. I have huge, unblocked, east-facing windows, and every morning I’m bathed in sunlight. No more sleeping in; I’m wide awake,…

“Huh, so maybe one of those seasonal-affect-disorder lamps would blah blah…” I’ve never been willing to try one as every one on the market is so ungodly ugly. There’s an opportunity out there for either a SAD bulb that could be added-on to a normal lamp, or an entire SAD lamp designed by an actual interior designer/artist.

The only really nice-looking one I’ve found is Casper Glow: https://casper.com/glow-light/

However, I don’t know if it counts, medically speaking, and the marketing page is careful not to make any actual claims.

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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Yes, audiobooks/podcasts at night are great. Lack of sleep ages you, makes you overweight, and susceptible to many health issues. Here's what I did to get enough sleep: * Make sure every monitor/portable device is using Redshift / Night Light blue light filter. * Set a "sleep alarm" After which no work on a screen. Only reading books/audiobooks * 0.5mg of Melatonin helps sleep naturally (more gives trippy dreams) * A…

What sort of podcasts/books? Not properly tried this before, but I'd imagine if it was interesting I'd want to stay awake and listen to it or find out more information... if it's boring I'd just be annoyed by the noise. Maybe bore myself to sleep?

I prefer science and history, not stories or news. Interesting enough to engage you, but not too much. Science Friday or Sean Carroll's Mindscape are good examples. Anything you find that lets your mind disengage and wander around bedtime. Make sure you have a sleep timer that stops after 30-60 min and/or turn off autoplay.

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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Yes, audiobooks/podcasts at night are great. Lack of sleep ages you, makes you overweight, and susceptible to many health issues. Here's what I did to get enough sleep: * Make sure every monitor/portable device is using Redshift / Night Light blue light filter. * Set a "sleep alarm" After which no work on a screen. Only reading books/audiobooks * 0.5mg of Melatonin helps sleep naturally (more gives trippy dreams) * A…

0.5 mg of melatonin? or 5.0 mg? 5 to 10 mg of melatonin is the amount in most all doses sold on Amazon. I've never seen such a light dose.

Apparently it works as effectivley at lower doses.

Someone posted this a while back, and it goes into a lot of detail: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/E4cKD9iTWHaE7f3AJ/melatonin-...

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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I'm in a particularly stressful time in my life (just moved, intense new job) where I've been struggling to sleep. There will be some nights where I simply don't sleep at all; just lay awake in bed all night. Of course I'm aware of all the health/safety/productivity issues associated with no sleep, and the anxiety of not sleeping just furthers my inability to fall asleep. This is what I've been attempting to do to he…

I am not sure where you live and if you are open to trying it, but weed helps ( specifically an indica heavy blend).

Problem is that you become dependent on weed if you use it often enough. And it screws with your REM sleep hence crazy dreams (REM rebound) when you stop smoking it.

Re: I tried to hack my insomnia

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Sure? So you are saying if you drink coffee every day and then stop - there will be no side effects?

Temporary withdrawals != permanent damage

Well I also did not say it's permanent. Messing up can be temporal but it also builds up and becomes harder to get off. Temporal should not be taken lightly.
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