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Re: Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't Starlink by Space X solve this? Authoritarian govs. would make it illegal to subscribe... but like VPNs it would be very hard to police, even harder.

You need to have the ground receiver and those seem relatively easy to restrict.

This.

People talk about Starlink like they never heard of RF engineering or something? I mean really, what does Starlink change when the entity doing the blocking is a state level actor?

Re: Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey

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everybody is freaking out about Hong Kong, and not without reason, but there are much larger movements going on elsewhere (Ecuador, Kurdistan, Yemen, ...) Edit: if you think all these places are too far from the "western world", well, think about Catalonia. We have a lot of arrested political prisoners without trial.

> there are much larger movements going on elsewhere (Ecuador, Kurdistan, Yemen, ...) Nation building is hard. Instilling modern democratic values is hard. Those fights are worth fighting. But Hong Kong is low-hanging fruit. (There is also loss aversion, Hong Kong slipping backwards feels worse than Ecuador remaining Ecuador.)

> Ecuador remaining Ecuador

what do you mean, exactly? This is just a personal thing, but I know many ecuadorians and I feel very strong emotions to the current events there. For me it is much closer culturally than Hong-Kong.

Re: Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey

#23

everybody is freaking out about Hong Kong, and not without reason, but there are much larger movements going on elsewhere (Ecuador, Kurdistan, Yemen, ...) Edit: if you think all these places are too far from the "western world", well, think about Catalonia. We have a lot of arrested political prisoners without trial.

People are being hypocritical sure, but it's for an alright cause so I'm good with it in this case. I file that under:

"If I can get someone to do the right thing, for the wrong reason? Then score one for me!"

Also, a lot of the hypocrisy stems from the propaganda that our government puts out. The US just doesn't put out much propaganda about those other conflicts. Let's be honest, people think they are acting freely and being critical thinkers and open minded, but we are all controlled mainly by the propaganda we absorb in whatever society we live in. We Americans are no different. So really, if you have a problem with people not talking about those other conflicts, you should bring it up to the government. The people are just following where the government leads.

Re: Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey

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everybody is freaking out about Hong Kong, and not without reason, but there are much larger movements going on elsewhere (Ecuador, Kurdistan, Yemen, ...) Edit: if you think all these places are too far from the "western world", well, think about Catalonia. We have a lot of arrested political prisoners without trial.

Did you really just compare Catalonia: A bunch of rich, entitled Spanish brexiter equivalents to Kurds who are being slaughtered by ISIS, Assad, Russia, and Türkiye?

Really???? I spend 2 months per year in Catalonia. There are no kids without legs in the streets. There are not 4 million refugees there.

Catalonia is identical to a bunch of Rich British wankers feeling that they are entitled to "more".

Re: Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey

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post #4

> Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey It's kind of incredible how that head line are so terrifying. The only explanation for this is that people don't want information getting out of that area. It's so fucked up. Maybe this is a bit naive to say but I really hate that this is just how things are. We all know what's going to happen and there's nothing that can be done about it. It d…

I mean, it's next to a war zone, with tons of military hardware moving about, preparing to enter fighting. It sounds like pretty reasonable counter-intelligence (not to mention counter-propaganda) move.

Re: Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey

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post #18

Time to do Mastodon and hope around servers of the fediverse!

Relevant Tweet: >Mastodon is proving to be a system so censorship resistant even its creators can't censor it. https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/1147772867783929856 It seems like federation is actually more censorship resistant in some ways than fully distributed p2p systems. Because an ISP could block ports and things required for p2p connections, right?

Wouldn't the authorities just keep blocking instances (i. e., servers)? I may be wrong, but I don't think a federated platform is censorship-resistant in any meaningful way.

Re: Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey

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post #6
post #4

> Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey It's kind of incredible how that head line are so terrifying. The only explanation for this is that people don't want information getting out of that area. It's so fucked up. Maybe this is a bit naive to say but I really hate that this is just how things are. We all know what's going to happen and there's nothing that can be done about it. It d…

Wouldn't Starlink by Space X solve this? Authoritarian govs. would make it illegal to subscribe... but like VPNs it would be very hard to police, even harder.

The only way is mesh. It’s the only way to permanently stop it.
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