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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by obtino »

numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

> Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

Any German-built Miele vacuum would beat a Dyson any day.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by ainar-g »

mdorazio wrote: post #22

Add Dyson to the list of failed/failing EV entrants (Faraday, Lucid, Elio, Aptera, ...) finding out the hard way that building a commercially viable car is hard regardless of what its powertrain looks like.

Re. the list. An obscure but mildly interesting one is Yo-Mobile[1]. It was a project funded by Russian oligarch Mikhail Prokhorov, of Brooklyn Nets fame. Prokhorov claimed that his engineers have developed a revolutionary supercapacitor technology, which will put any Li-Ion battery to shame. When Prokhorov later revealed that he was running for President Of Russia in 2012, a lot of people started thinking that Yo-Mobile was a publicity stunt from the very beginning. Prokhorov, rater predictably, lost the election (third place, less than 8 % of votes). Yo-Mobile was sold to the Russian Government for €1 (one Euro) and apparently abandoned later.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo-Mobile

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Post by pfranz »

xivzgrev wrote: post #66

Why do companies keep thinking they can build a fucking car? Yes Tesla did it but it was a company 100% dedicated to it. Dyson has a core business already. I’m also skeptical about Apple but at least they have one of the largest treasure chests in the world of cash so they can more afford a moon shot.

My guess is that all of these companies see it as an innovative space. Either the goal is pure prestige or to find some niche thing they can patent and sell to everyone else. They have to build the whole car because they have to.

I think of it as, "most of the people who made money during the gold rush were those who sold shovels." They're looking to find the right shovel, but need the whole process in-house to do that.

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Post by mschuster91 »

hedvig wrote: post #89
rvz wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, his move to Singapore apparently was to address the lack of finding engineering talent in the UK which has been a chronic issue in the UK for a long time. Simply finding talent elsewhere doesn't make Dyson a 'bad person' and this move has nothing got to do with the EU or Brexit in general.

> address the lack of finding engineering talent Why can't our "betters" resolve such a problem instead of side-stepping it. That's what a good person would do.

> Why can't our "betters" resolve such a problem instead of side-stepping it. That's what a good person would do.

Because our politicians do not serve the population first. They serve their respective parties and their donors first, no matter the country.

Additionally, improving education systems is hard, expensive and takes longer than a typical election cycle, while it is easy, cost-saving and fast to gut education systems. When shit hits the fan after ~10 years, the politicians who decided to gut the systems often enough are no longer in office.

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Post by bdamm »

ehnto wrote: post #91
dtwest wrote: post #61

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> they take about the same time as any other dryer This is false. Before the Dyson Airblade and the really loud Xlerator ones, World Dryer was the most common hand dryer (in America at least), and they are awful. Forget about 10 seconds, you could stand there for 60 seconds and still want to use paper towels after.

Xlerators are an auditory health hazard. You can hear them running outside the gym before you can hear the music blaring.

The emerging research showing hearing damage to children, who stand closer and lower in to the air blower, is pretty damning.

I'll pretty much never use these if I can avoid it. Paper towel is quick, it's quiet, it's mess free, and it's made out of a renewable resource that pulls CO2 from the air. What's not to like about paper towels?

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Post by pdovy »

cactus2093 wrote: post #72
pdovy wrote: post #57

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I have a V7 that my mother in law gave us and the cordless part is the only thing it has going for it. It doesn't do nearly as good a job as our corded Miele but it's good enough that I'll use it to spot clean when I don't want to lug that out.

Honestly curious, what kind of floors are you cleaning where you notice this, really deep carpets or something? I feel like the suction on my dyson v6 is perfectly adequate, better than any other cordless I've used and as good as an average bigger vacuum. We have mostly laminate floors and some really short carpets in the bedroom, and on either surface the dyson works well, pretty much gets everything visible after a…

The brush attachment is actually quite good on rugs/carpet, but most of our house is hardwood or tile. The hard floor attachment we have is basically a soft roller that is supposed to sweep debris backwards and funnel it to the actual vacuum inlet. This doesn't work particularly well and will sometimes fling debris out the back, and the design also seems to mean that it works best pushing forward, rather than just vacuuming in kind of a W motion. I have a theory that this is worsened because our house is old and the floors are not that even, so maybe it's not able to trap debris as effectively? Our other normal vacuum's hardwood attachment is the super simple suction cone type thing, and that will suck up basically anything in it's path.

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Post by bdamm »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #156
joncrane wrote: post #150

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Most bathrooms with hand dryers eschew the paper. So the alternative is just walking around with wet hands? Or not washing your hands at all?

In my coworking space with only hand dryers (eco friendly attempt) I just tear a couple paper towels off in the kitchen and bring them in with me.

The whole "eco friendly" thing about hand dryers never made sense to me. In fact, I think it's a marketing ploy by the air dryer makers. Paper towels are great, and they come from trees, which we can and want to grow more of.
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