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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by ehnto »

dtwest wrote: post #61
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> they take about the same time as any other dryer This is false. Before the Dyson Airblade and the really loud Xlerator ones, World Dryer was the most common hand dryer (in America at least), and they are awful. Forget about 10 seconds, you could stand there for 60 seconds and still want to use paper towels after.

Xlerators are an auditory health hazard. You can hear them running outside the gym before you can hear the music blaring.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by onion2k »

dangrossman wrote: post #46
FerretFred wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? The UK government are pushing EVs heavily but there's no charging infrastructure in place and very few can afford the £30-40K it costs to buy them :(

> there's no charging infrastructure in place There are over 15,000 EV charging points in the UK today, which is about 2X the number of petrol stations. Ionity will have 40 350 kW fast charging stations in the UK as well.

Most petrol stations refuel between 4 and 8 cars every 5 minutes at peak usage. The same is not true of charging points yet.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by samfriedman »

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

I tried a few Dyson vacs and was never much impressed by them. I got a Miele canister vac recently and that thing has blown me away with how effective it is. Quiet, powerful, and very well and thoughtfully designed.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by oxplot »

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products

If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. On multiple occasions, I've asked a friend of mine to try various products I use which I believe are excellent in many ways, only to be told that they were average or junk compared to what he uses. I believe what he uses mostly to be complete and utter junk! So I don't know ...

As far as Dyson vacuums go, V10 tipped over for me. The suction improved noticeably as did the run time. The bin is quite larger as well and my pet peeve, emptying the bin cleanly, is done perfectly in V10. I used to have to deal with hair in previous models. After V10, I never once touched the inside of the bin to do extra cleaning.

The motor head in V10 does not get hair in it. It's like magic!

As far as industrial design and feel of it goes, it's a pleasure to hold and use, so much that I sometimes over vacuum.

The warranty and support is the best as usual, even past warranty period.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by djaychela »

FerretFred wrote: post #35
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

>I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? The UK government are pushing EVs heavily but there's no charging infrastructure in place and very few can afford the £30-40K it costs to buy them :(

But if that was the problem, then how/why are other manufacturers making them viable?

I wouldn't say there is 'no infrastructure in place' - yes, it's less than the ICE infrastructure, but it's perfectly possible for many people to use an EV for their transport requirements. Not everyone, but plenty of people can do - and do.

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Post by ww520 »

numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

I have the German made Miele for couple years. It’s pretty good.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by wazoox »

dariusj18 wrote: post #59
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

I bought vacuums that were supposed to be as good as Dysons and they always sucked (though there are some Sharks I've heard good things about). Then I finally bought a Dyson (a v7) and it's been great. Great design and function.

Isn't sucking what a vacuum cleaner's supposed to do ? :)

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by bredren »

xivzgrev wrote: post #66

Why do companies keep thinking they can build a fucking car? Yes Tesla did it but it was a company 100% dedicated to it. Dyson has a core business already. I’m also skeptical about Apple but at least they have one of the largest treasure chests in the world of cash so they can more afford a moon shot.

I think in-part because Apple was able to move into the smartphone business and grow so much as a result it has other companies thinking they could do the same.

Also, it could be some of these companies have existential threats that they must try something big and new or risk going out of business or being forced to sell to a rival.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by soup10 »

xivzgrev wrote: post #66

Why do companies keep thinking they can build a fucking car? Yes Tesla did it but it was a company 100% dedicated to it. Dyson has a core business already. I’m also skeptical about Apple but at least they have one of the largest treasure chests in the world of cash so they can more afford a moon shot.

Lots of small teams make prototype/custom cars. The harder part is scaling up production to make thousands.
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