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Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

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Re: Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

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I was in Prague a week or so ago and was surprised by how much graffiti there was regarding the politics Hong Kong/Taiwan/One China/etc. About a 60/40 mix of English and Chinese. Given the massive number of Chinese tourists I suppose it's a decent way to reach an audience in the touristy areas

in which part of Prague have you been?

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Beijing is slow to realize that trying to strong-arm the West's views on Tibet, Hong Kong, etc will not work, and in fact, makes their international position weaker.

What's the end-goal? Tibet cannot be a separate country (or in that respect, Hong Kong) very much like Quebec cannot be a separate country from Canada. You can say that China becomes arrogant, but what exactly West expect other than a total war that rewrite much of the world nation borders? --- Although way passed the point to convince anyone, my comment above and below conditioned on "after WW2 (breaking up any larg…

Why can't it? It once was, why can't it be again? Especially if the people of Tibet want it to be.

[Edit: oska beat me to it, and said it better besides.]

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post #36

Why does China care about municipal politics of a foreign city? On the other hand, I can't sympathise with the Tibet supporters either. The issue is not as straightforward as many Westerners believe[1]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-...

The article you linked to is poor mostly because it's liberally bathed in whataboutism. Tibet's backwardness has nothing to do nor does it justify China's actions in Tibet. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Let's do a quick bias check: do you believe most Tibetans would secede given the vote?

I don't think they would, but neither do I know the statistic. If anyone can provide it (I couldn't), then if they would indeed vote to secede, I'll change my mind.

Re: Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

#55

It feels like Hong Kong has spurred a political crisis in Beijing. Publicly denouncing the NBA? Publicly going after a European capital? It would be one thing to do this behind closed doors. But the hamhandedness of it all resembles flailing more than a coherent strategy. Is there a domestic nationalistic PR strategy this is playing into?

> Is there a domestic nationalistic PR strategy this is playing into?

Yes.

Re: Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

#56

Since Beijing [was] a sister city of Prague, this got me interested and discovered that Dallas is a sister city of Taipei, Taiwan. Hmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas#Sister_cities

Taipei has been a sister city of Houston since '61.

Taipei has a very large family. :- )

Re: Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

#57

I'm surprised that business is so keen on China. Obviously they are a massive market, but they are also so fickle and nationalistic. Its so easy for a non-Chinese business to make an innocent mistake or just different view and have the government or citizens actively boycott you. I'd be hesitant to put any business reliance or investment in China these days.

My interpretation: the difficulty that competitors have penetrating the market means the profits will be that much bigger for the company that finally "cracks the code." It's like dopamine-seeking behavior writ large; the more you're denied payoff, the greater the anticipation, the more desperately you want it.

Re: Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

#58

I'm surprised that business is so keen on China. Obviously they are a massive market, but they are also so fickle and nationalistic. Its so easy for a non-Chinese business to make an innocent mistake or just different view and have the government or citizens actively boycott you. I'd be hesitant to put any business reliance or investment in China these days.

My interpretation: the difficulty that competitors have penetrating the market means the profits will be that much bigger for the company that finally "cracks the code." It's like dopamine-seeking behavior writ large; the more you're denied payoff, the greater the anticipation, the more desperately you want it.

A month ago people probably would have said the NBA cracked the code. But I would hope that recent events had made it clear: there is no such thing as "cracking the code". It's a perpetual dance and if you trip once you're out.

Re: Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the end-goal? Tibet cannot be a separate country (or in that respect, Hong Kong) very much like Quebec cannot be a separate country from Canada. You can say that China becomes arrogant, but what exactly West expect other than a total war that rewrite much of the world nation borders? --- Although way passed the point to convince anyone, my comment above and below conditioned on "after WW2 (breaking up any larg…

Sure it can. Especially since Tibet is a separate country; invasion is no longer recognized as a way for a country to increase its area.

Crimea says hello

Re: Beijing Takes Aim at Prague After ‘One-China’ Dispute Deepens

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It feels like Hong Kong has spurred a political crisis in Beijing. Publicly denouncing the NBA? Publicly going after a European capital? It would be one thing to do this behind closed doors. But the hamhandedness of it all resembles flailing more than a coherent strategy. Is there a domestic nationalistic PR strategy this is playing into?

It does seem remarkably clumsy, but they seem to have completely boxed themselves in with Hong Kong from an international perspective. Maybe too many years of actions coming without much global consequence.

Havel flew the Tibetan flag for years and was a friend of the Dalai Lama, so I am glad to read that the Tibetan Flag is flying in Prague once again.

For anyone who doesn't know it, the Tibetan flag is one of the more striking world flags.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Tibet

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