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Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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It is scary to see how much more China and the CCP can get away with, I'm looking forward to seeing where it will all end up. Probably not in a good place. Money talks, morals? Not so much.

I don't suppose the lack of legitimacy of the CCP will make anyone more likely to recognize Taiwan? Anybody? Oh, well.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#112

I'm mixed on this. I'm 100% for Chung “Blitzchung” Ng Wai to express his support for Hong Kong. I'm not so sure it's okay for him to do it on Blizzard's show/event. 27 years ago Sinead O'Connor ripped up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live when it was broadcast live. She's was arguably right to critize the Pope but was she right to do it from Saturday Night Live's Live broadcast? IIRC because of that inciden…

I don’t know about SNL, but the thing that pisses me off about Blizzard is that they have been parading around as a company that supports human rights. They recently held a pro LGBT+ event, they’ve held numerous humanitarian aid campaigns and they even have a statue outside their headquarters that features one of their core values “Every voice matters”.

You simply can’t do all that, and then go against democracy and basic human rights like this, and then expect people to not call you out for your bullshit.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#113

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China is targeting individual speech, sanctions and embargos target governments and governmental policy. There's a bit of a difference there. That said, I think that China's efforts - by using companies as their proxies - are being much more effective.

>are being much more effective Absolutely. They’re beating us at our own game and revealing that American values were never freedom and democracy - those are just ways we think are good to make money. If a better system comes along we’re the first to jump on it.

> revealing that American values were never freedom and democracy

Dunno about you, but I draw the opposite conclusion. The reaction so far has made it clear that a lot of Americans value freedom and democracy, and that they see these corporate actions as unacceptable.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Right now the leadership in China is terrified! They've been able to get away with a lot, basically using their economic power to get other countries to look the other way with regards to their behavior (suppressing their people, stealing IP, bullying smaller nations). but the moment they got called on it and people started moving their operations to other countries (previously considered "impossible"), they saw the…

I'm interested in your opinion. Sources?

A collection of mainstream news sources, various government reports, and speculation.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#116
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The CCP can move quickly and decisively to ban access to the world's 2nd largest market, and it uses that power to chill speech and force governments and companies to take actions it wants that are antithetical to a free society. Small nations and individual companies cannot stand up to this coercion individually, and free, market economies lack the organization to respond in a cohesive way. The optimistic belief tha…

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Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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It's a weird day when I find myself agreeing with Marco Rubio. But it's true, China is effectively attempting a global chill on free speech by gating market access. If we don't stand up now, the effects will be felt long into the future.

Almost all Americans can agree on freedom of speech.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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The Chinese government isn't stupid. It knows people circumvent the GFoC. Damage control as usual. I think the US corollary is "all enemies foreign and domestic".

Those people who can circumvent the GFoC, already knows that their leader is pulling down the whole country.

The west should quit pretending that the majority of Chinese hate the CCP.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#119
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Great Streisand moves by China though, previously gamers or basketball fans might not really care about what's happening in Hong Kong/China in general, but within 2 days they (China) have raised awareness of what a shitty overlord they are.

Well, China has done nothing here though. This is the NBA and Blizzard acting to prevent what I like to call the "Weibo Outrage Machine" from revving too high. (Not that it worked, because in the NBA's case, the machine was red lining. In Blizzard's case, there was nary a peep though, so that one is a bit puzzling?) For any who were unaware, the "Weibo Outrage Machine" is pretty much exactly what it sounds like, thin…

The NBA said "the person can say what he wants on Twitter, even if we don't like it". Blizzard banned the player for a year, took his earnings from the tournament, and fired the casters that were interviewing him.

Of course there's nary a peep about Blizzard.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#120
post #23

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>> Why should Blizzard get in the middle of what's happening between China and Hong Kong That's the question. Why did they do it in the first place? They could have not banned the player.

>They could have not banned the player. But that was the right decision. The player politicized their neutral platform. The NBA fined players that wouldn't stand for the anthem for the same reason.

> The player politicized their neutral platform. The NBA fined players that wouldn't stand for the anthem for the same reason.

Standing for the national anthem is not a politically neutral action. FORCING players to stand for the national anthem is not a politically neutral action.

It's common, but that doesn't mean it's neutral.

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