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The west employs this tactic too but calls it a sanction or embargo.

Can you give an example of free speech being quieted? We push political issues that way, but I’m not aware of censorship being the trigger.

The most well-known one would be James Damore being fired from Google for criticizing the corporate diversity policies [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Ch...

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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There is no law or constitutional provision in the US that says you can’t refuse to work with someone for their political views.

idk man it sounds like discrimination to me.

Discrimination is not illegal except when it is discrimination against particular protected classes -- federally, this includes race/nationality/citizenship, religion, sex, age, disability, or veteran status. A private company is free to discriminate on the basis of political belief.

That's not to say it is right or acceptable, but it isn't illegal.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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I don't think it should be an international incident. The reality is that corporations shouldn't be espousing political viewpoints, and nobody should care what their opinion is on controversial policies. They make and sell products and that's all they should stick too. Why should Blizzard get in the middle of what's happening between China and Hong Kong? And to be clear, it isn't just Chinese government versus Hong K…

>> Why should Blizzard get in the middle of what's happening between China and Hong Kong

That's the question. Why did they do it in the first place? They could have not banned the player.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Propose that a suspended player is a US citizen. This feels unconstitutional / illegal, as Blizzard has taken away the player's ability to earn a living based in their political views. The guise of suspension under the violation of "disparagement" feels weak. I'd be interested in seeing how a lawsuit plays out.

There is no law or constitutional provision in the US that says you can’t refuse to work with someone for their political views.

It's kind of unfortunate. It's like there's free speech, but the reality is almost everyone needs to work to live, and by way of working, their freedom of speech is effectively revoked.

EEOC makes it illegal to discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin; why can't political views and speech said outside of the workplace be a part of that?

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Great Streisand moves by China though, previously gamers or basketball fans might not really care about what's happening in Hong Kong/China in general, but within 2 days they (China) have raised awareness of what a shitty overlord they are.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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It's a weird day when I find myself agreeing with Marco Rubio. But it's true, China is effectively attempting a global chill on free speech by gating market access. If we don't stand up now, the effects will be felt long into the future.

The west employs this tactic too but calls it a sanction or embargo.

China is targeting individual speech, sanctions and embargos target governments and governmental policy. There's a bit of a difference there.

That said, I think that China's efforts - by using companies as their proxies - are being much more effective.

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It's a weird day when I find myself agreeing with Marco Rubio. But it's true, China is effectively attempting a global chill on free speech by gating market access. If we don't stand up now, the effects will be felt long into the future.

Noticing this a lot more recently with the NBA controversy too.

What is so weird about the NBA controversy is that it stems from a tweet. Twitter is banned in China. So how could it have “hurt the Chinese people’s feelings”?

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give an example of free speech being quieted? We push political issues that way, but I’m not aware of censorship being the trigger.

The most well-known one would be James Damore being fired from Google for criticizing the corporate diversity policies [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Ch...

I was expecting an example of the west punishing another government (or companies in another country) for free speech.

Google wasn’t censored by a government. That was a decision they decided to make (whatever you think of it, I don’t want to start a relitigation of that mess).

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