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Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Propose that a suspended player is a US citizen. This feels unconstitutional / illegal, as Blizzard has taken away the player's ability to earn a living based in their political views. The guise of suspension under the violation of "disparagement" feels weak. I'd be interested in seeing how a lawsuit plays out.

There is no law or constitutional provision in the US that says you can’t refuse to work with someone for their political views.

idk man it sounds like discrimination to me.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#12

It's a weird day when I find myself agreeing with Marco Rubio. But it's true, China is effectively attempting a global chill on free speech by gating market access. If we don't stand up now, the effects will be felt long into the future.

The west employs this tactic too but calls it a sanction or embargo.

Can you give an example of free speech being quieted? We push political issues that way, but I’m not aware of censorship being the trigger.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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It's a weird day when I find myself agreeing with Marco Rubio. But it's true, China is effectively attempting a global chill on free speech by gating market access. If we don't stand up now, the effects will be felt long into the future.

Noticing this a lot more recently with the NBA controversy too.

The NBA at least seems to be walking back their initial condemnation of Morey's comments, China be damned: [0]. We should give them credit for that. Conversely, there's been radio silence from Blizzard so far.

[0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/sports/adam-silver-nba-ch...

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#14

Propose that a suspended player is a US citizen. This feels unconstitutional / illegal, as Blizzard has taken away the player's ability to earn a living based in their political views. The guise of suspension under the violation of "disparagement" feels weak. I'd be interested in seeing how a lawsuit plays out.

> Propose that a suspended player is a US citizen.

Like Colin Kaepernick? That just happened like 3 years ago, has everyone already forgotten?

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no law or constitutional provision in the US that says you can’t refuse to work with someone for their political views.

idk man it sounds like discrimination to me.

It's legal to discriminate as long as it's not a protected class.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#16

Propose that a suspended player is a US citizen. This feels unconstitutional / illegal, as Blizzard has taken away the player's ability to earn a living based in their political views. The guise of suspension under the violation of "disparagement" feels weak. I'd be interested in seeing how a lawsuit plays out.

That's a bit of a stretch, the 'player' can still get a job elsewhere, no one has a right to work for whatever company they want using whatever platforms they wish...

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#17

Propose that a suspended player is a US citizen. This feels unconstitutional / illegal, as Blizzard has taken away the player's ability to earn a living based in their political views. The guise of suspension under the violation of "disparagement" feels weak. I'd be interested in seeing how a lawsuit plays out.

There is no law or constitutional provision in the US that says you can’t refuse to work with someone for their political views.

A lawsuit doesn't depend on the law or constitution.

As a separate note, the player and hosts would likely be considered to be contractors, not employees.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no law or constitutional provision in the US that says you can’t refuse to work with someone for their political views.

idk man it sounds like discrimination to me.

Not all types of discrimination are illegal - in particular, the GP is stating that refusing to do business with people of a certain political leaning is not illegal.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no law or constitutional provision in the US that says you can’t refuse to work with someone for their political views.

idk man it sounds like discrimination to me.

US law protects against discrimination for protected groups (race, religion, age, etc.). Political views are not a protected group.

Re: Fallout from Blizzard Hong Kong Incident

#20

I don't think it should be an international incident. The reality is that corporations shouldn't be espousing political viewpoints, and nobody should care what their opinion is on controversial policies. They make and sell products and that's all they should stick too. Why should Blizzard get in the middle of what's happening between China and Hong Kong? And to be clear, it isn't just Chinese government versus Hong K…

> The reality is that corporations shouldn't be espousing political viewpoints

But they MUST. That’s the issue. There is no such thing as remaining neutral.

What could they do? Ban the player to make China happy? Now the west is mad and boycotting.

NOT ban the player? Now China is pissed and kicking you out of the country.

They were damned by someone either way. There was no neutral political stance they could take. International politics is just setup that way. Total neutrality doesn’t exist on that stage.

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