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Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by 72deluxe »

stickfigure wrote: post #104
kbenson wrote: post #49

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> Oh, let's not forget the fact that Vista was supposed to be Longhorn, the OS of the future with a database file system This sounded interesting when I first heard about it, long before Vista came out. Now when I see it I wonder what they were trying to do. A file system is a database, with a well understood user API. So what were they going to add? Tagging? Application level views of the system? None of t hat seems…

A file system is a database, with a well understood user API. Yes, a terrible API which works poorly for most home use cases. You probably have music on your computer. In your hierarchical filesystem, do you organize it by Genre/Artist/Album or Artist/Album? Do music videos live in the same Artist directory or in a separate "video" folder? Chances are you don't know/care because you're using an app like iTunes that b…

"Data doesn't want to be organized in a single static hierarchy."

Data has no feelings.

In the case of file system, it makes perfect sense to be stored in a single static hierarchy because that perfectly reflects the concept of a paper file in a filing cabinet, in a little binder.

Even a relational database system that lets you query tables for data based on set ordering has a single method of storing the data on disk - that's a clustered index. You can't get away from having that, despite being able to support additional nonclustered indexes. In that case, the table and its rows really is organised in a static hierarchy too.

As it stands, NTFS has plenty of features that lets you attach a secondary data stream to a file anyway, and all manner of metadata. The Windows Internals book on NTFS is very informative on this.

These features don't exist on APFS though, as it's not as good despite being brand new, it seems!

Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by test1235 »

ohazi wrote: post #173
wyclif wrote: post #164

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I really wouldn't want to use a Linux laptop for work unless I had a WM installed like i3 or dwm, so I could completely ignore the awful trackpad. Apple may be bad at some things, but trackpads are not one of those things.

Can't argue with that! Lenovo trackpads seem to alternate between almost usable and utter trash every few years. I usually just plug in a mouse...

I just got a t480s and I feel the trackpad is my main complaint ... it feels kinda plasticky and the responsiveness isn't quite there (e.g. phantom dragging).

Overall, the quality doesn't compare to my 2013 macbook air, but it does have some newer features which're nice.

Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by intarga »

pjmlp wrote: post #181
ohazi wrote: post #123

Maybe we should be angry? Apple has been neglecting OS X since Snow Leopard, thinking that iOS is the only thing worth investing in. Microsoft apparently agrees -- they chopped up the Windows team last year, pushing out the Windows chief and dumping the remaining re-orged husk under Azure. Just for security reasons alone, it should be terrifying that there isn't a standalone Windows group anymore. Windows hasn't been…

Until Linux-on-the-desktop gives me the GUI workflow, a full OS stack of the likes of macOS, Windows, Android, it is going to be left as a travel OS for my tiny surviving Asus netbook. For a couple of years I believed on the dream, nowadays I rather invest my time elsewhere.

Although I'm not personally a fan of it, I don't see what Gnome is lacking that you can get on those OSs you listed

Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by majewsky »

eikenberry wrote: post #199
ohazi wrote: post #123

Maybe we should be angry? Apple has been neglecting OS X since Snow Leopard, thinking that iOS is the only thing worth investing in. Microsoft apparently agrees -- they chopped up the Windows team last year, pushing out the Windows chief and dumping the remaining re-orged husk under Azure. Just for security reasons alone, it should be terrifying that there isn't a standalone Windows group anymore. Windows hasn't been…

> Microsoft apparently agrees -- they chopped up the Windows team last year, pushing out the Windows chief and dumping the remaining re-orged husk under Azure. Do you have a reference for this? This seems like pretty big news.

A quick internet search finds news articles from March 2018, for example:

> the Windows and Azure platforms are being combined, operating under Jason Zander

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/03/windows-leader-terry...

Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by antisemiotic »

merijnv wrote: post #216
jeroenhd wrote: post #193

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Apple is perfectly allowed to ship a newer version, they'd just have to share some of their special sauce. Not entirely unreasonable in my opinion. Apple doesn't want to ship a new version because they don't want people to see how they've modified bash. I don't know what patents or top secret features they've added to make their version of bash incompatible with GPL, as they're allowed to ship GPL code in a closed so…

> Apple doesn't want to ship a new version because they don't want people to see how they've modified bash. This is just false, the old bash is GPL2 and Apple publishes the source for their bash on their open source compliance page. The reason they don't upgrade is the GPL3 patent grant clause, they ship the last GPL2 release for all GNU utils. The linux kernel is GPL2, so Microsoft doesn't have this problem.

Microsoft ships the entire Ubuntu, which does contain GPL3 code. Maybe they get away with it because it's not so integrated with the rest of Windows.

Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by majewsky »

ohazi wrote: post #142
ashishb wrote: post #130

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WiFi, battery, and sleep. Have these problems been fixed with Linux on laptops?

Wifi: The advice from five years ago was to select/buy the Intel wifi card. Those are the only ones I've used, and they've all Just Worked. Intel cards are the only option if you're buying a Thinkpad. Sleep and hibernate: Works on every Lenovo I've used. Battery: My most recent laptop gets around 8-9 hours with a new battery on a normal workload, and when it drops to 3 hours, I buy a new battery.

> Intel cards are the only option if you're buying a Thinkpad.

Not true. My Thinkpad E485 from late 2018 has either a Broadcom or a Qualcomm chip, but definitely not Intel. It works like a charm though. The bigger issue is the Realtek Ethernet NIC which has an annoying driver bug where it does not detect the carrier except when the cable is already inserted at boot time. Never buy Realtek if you can avoid it.

Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by jhasse »

tgv wrote: post #172
ashishb wrote: post #130

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WiFi, battery, and sleep. Have these problems been fixed with Linux on laptops?

People here seem to have had positive experiences, which may be due to a bit of fanboyism or Apple hate, but a relatively technically capable colleague tried to install Ubuntu onto a Dell recently, and failed: grahpics and network issues; no idea if it could sleep. Two days of work lost, so now he has a mac.

For a fair comparision he should have bought one of Dell's laptop which come preinstalled with Ubuntu.

Re: macOS 10.15 Vista

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Post by coldtea »

The reason for so many messages at once -- in case it's not obvious to someone not using macOS -- is that this user had a lot of apps set to autostart at login...

So several apps started at the same time (upon reboot and login) and now needed explicit user permissions under Catalina, so they prompted for those.

What I don't understand is, why can't Apple have an app/panel where all standalone such nags are placed?

So, instead of 20 mini-windows all over the place, you get a single window, with the name of each requesting app and the nag, and even options like "deny all", "allow all", or some quick way to select some and not others (e.g. nags grouped by app).

And an additional idea: I'd have a physical led or similar mechanism on the computer, that only when a dialog is official and uses standard system UI lights up (similar to how a led lights up when the camera is on). I'd use secure enclave and make sure that only system APIs can set this on -- no userland code, except when it calls the specific legit dialogs, which should also not be hidable and have the highest z-index.

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