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NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts
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#432A presidential candidates stance on China and its abuse of human rights will be a key issue for me in 2020. What is happening to the NBA, Blizzard, and seemingly every company that has a presence in China is the tip of the iceberg. If we as a liberal free society cannot stand against the rise of oppressive totalitarianism then we are doomed to fail. Incremental profits and potential market share in a closed economy i…
> A presidential candidates stance on China and its abuse of human rights will be a key issue for me in 2020. Your presidential candidate need to fix human rights issues in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Democracy installed by the US government gotta have a warranty and customer service. If the outcome of US installed human rights means tens of thousands of refugees and jihad fighters how can your model of human rights…
The US still conducts operations in Afghanistan and Iraq without informing their governments, that's military occupation, not "democracy"
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#433Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A presidential candidates stance on China and its abuse of human rights will be a key issue for me in 2020. Your presidential candidate need to fix human rights issues in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Democracy installed by the US government gotta have a warranty and customer service. If the outcome of US installed human rights means tens of thousands of refugees and jihad fighters how can your model of human rights…
You can't have it both ways, we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected. How many revolutions and dictatorships did the French have to go through until they settled on a system that works for them?
> we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected.
The USA insisted on representative government within those countries’ existing borders. So much of the strife in those countries is ethnic-based. If regions were given options for secession, then some of the new territorial formations that resulted may well have become more politically stable. Just look at how much better off Iraqi Kurdistan is, which is as close as it can get to independence, than the rest of Iraq.
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#434Is this a dilemma though? In fact, the more I think about this, is this even a problem? I've been on Weibo a bit looking at reactions to all this, and here's the thing, if your average mainlander is upset and no longer wants to have anything to do with you, which, judging from the volume of comments seems to be true, why is that necessarily a problem? People can say whatever they want. And other people can associate…
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#435The NBA really needs to grow a spine on this one. They have nothing to lose but incremental profits and in the long run China will lose. It will just be one more reminder for the populace that their current government restricts them from luxuries the rest of the world gets to experience. And if that doesn't bother them, good riddance I guess, it's not like China is going to come up with their own basketball league th…
They are taking a stance: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/media/nba-adam-silver/index.h...
- The NBA has spent years and many millions of dollars investing in China, helping to build courts, giving broadcasting rights away for free and bringing its stars over for preseason games.
One second you are in the market.
Poof, you are not anymore.
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Investing in China as a western company to earn money is the worst business decision you can have.
Knowledge transfer for manufacturing is the second.
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#437Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A presidential candidates stance on China and its abuse of human rights will be a key issue for me in 2020. Your presidential candidate need to fix human rights issues in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Democracy installed by the US government gotta have a warranty and customer service. If the outcome of US installed human rights means tens of thousands of refugees and jihad fighters how can your model of human rights…
You can't have it both ways, we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected. How many revolutions and dictatorships did the French have to go through until they settled on a system that works for them?
So now the expectation is for them to suffer 100-500 years until they finally figure out how to do democracy? I think I'd rather live in a stable dictatorship that through the hell of never-ending war
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#438Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They have nothing to lose but incremental profits and in the long run China will lose. I don’t understand this. They could lost all their market in China which is not a small number and in return, long-term financially, nothing. It is not like Chinese people can’t live without it. There are more than enough entertainments for Chinese people to enjoy.
At the rate they're making money (NBA), why does ADDITIONAL PROFIT matter ? We aren't 'the ferangi'; people are more important than profits, but American corporations seem to have ignored or forgotten that. Screw NBA market share, or financial well-being. Democracy and human rights are vastly more important!
On a tangent, what is "the ferangi"? Because that's what Indians call Europeans.
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#439Earlier quoted context omitted.
At the rate they're making money (NBA), why does ADDITIONAL PROFIT matter ? We aren't 'the ferangi'; people are more important than profits, but American corporations seem to have ignored or forgotten that. Screw NBA market share, or financial well-being. Democracy and human rights are vastly more important!
On a tangent, what is "the ferangi"? Because that's what Indians call Europeans.
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#440Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want to point it out it is not only Chinese government, but also Chinese people, the people were enjoying the NBA, are abandoning it. This actually hurts the feeling of the fans.
While this definitely exists, I’m not completely convinced the true intensity of the Chinese exactly matches the front that Beijing allows forth. I’m confident that most Chinese are unhappy (maybe very unhappy) with the comments, but an entirely organic nationwide boycott seems a little farfetched to me. Chinese aren’t robots; there’s significant variance of opinions and eagerness about politics among them just like…
Why are you confident about Chinese? Do you have any evidence directly from mainland Chinese to support your arguments, or only speculations?