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NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would anybody play sports then?

Not that I agree with the original, but that's a bit like asking why would anybody play music or make art (activities that rarely involve money)? Because they enjoy it.

Though the parent is accurate that in our western society doing a thing because you enjoy it is punished, both monetarily and socially, because you're not efficiently using your time to make someone else some money.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if you're talking about china or america.

He's talking about China, don't be obtuse, America, while being horrendous abroad, is no where near as bad as China would be in Americas position if the treatment of their own subjects is any indication.

In what world is US better than China? China doesn't travel to other countries and directly kill millions of civilians like the United States. This website is so shitty when coming to defending the United States. I don't know why I continue to waste my time reading shitty pro-US propaganda on this website.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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post #20

The NBA really needs to grow a spine on this one. They have nothing to lose but incremental profits and in the long run China will lose. It will just be one more reminder for the populace that their current government restricts them from luxuries the rest of the world gets to experience. And if that doesn't bother them, good riddance I guess, it's not like China is going to come up with their own basketball league th…

They have everything to lose and it's quite sane for them to back down from this fight. The NBA isn't our government, just because our politicians are spineless and fawning doesn't mean companies need to take up the fight.

That all said it'd be awesome if they chose to push back even though it's entirely destructive to themselves.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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It's not much of a dilemma though, is it? Already-rich folks kowtowing to fascists for a quick buck is beyond pathetic. US companies should stop targeting China for growth. If they don't steal your IP completely, they'll eventually freeze you out like they just did the NBA. It's happened to many companies and will eventually happen to you too. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

There's a reason that, historically, fascists cozied up to the ownership class. People who operate on the assumption that they must profit over everything else are easily coerced into aligning their interests with those of fascists.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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post #20

The NBA really needs to grow a spine on this one. They have nothing to lose but incremental profits and in the long run China will lose. It will just be one more reminder for the populace that their current government restricts them from luxuries the rest of the world gets to experience. And if that doesn't bother them, good riddance I guess, it's not like China is going to come up with their own basketball league th…

While I agree that the NBA has stand up and to do the right thing, I'm not sure that "incremental" is the correct description of the league's profits.

I read an article very recently (NY Times, maybe?) that laid out the numbers, and the amount of money the NBA earns in China dwarfs its U.S. revenue.

not like China is going to come up with their own basketball league

It already has basketball leagues. And considering that China has exported star players to the NBA, it's certainly a possibility.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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NBA?

How about the US government? I know in another post I made the point that we could not just call out Blizzard or other game companies but instead have to call out ALL companies that do business in China and worse crack down on their own and related who dare say something China does not approve of.

However the real party that has to be taken to task is our own governments. In the US that means both Congress and the Administration. That means all candidates for President need to state their stance NOW.

How it plays out in the EU I have no idea, news of any of their businesses or governments bending to China's will are pretty much absent from US news

edit:recently we have had major issues with privacy concerns, losing freedom of speech is a form of that as well.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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It's not much of a dilemma though, is it? Already-rich folks kowtowing to fascists for a quick buck is beyond pathetic. US companies should stop targeting China for growth. If they don't steal your IP completely, they'll eventually freeze you out like they just did the NBA. It's happened to many companies and will eventually happen to you too. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

There's a reason that, historically, fascists cozied up to the ownership class. People who operate on the assumption that they must profit over everything else are easily coerced into aligning their interests with those of fascists.

"ownership class"??? Just say Jews.

Re: NBA's China dilemma: $4B at risk as Chinese TV cancels game broadcasts

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Is this a dilemma though?

In fact, the more I think about this, is this even a problem?

I've been on Weibo a bit looking at reactions to all this, and here's the thing, if your average mainlander is upset and no longer wants to have anything to do with you, which, judging from the volume of comments seems to be true, why is that necessarily a problem?

People can say whatever they want. And other people can associate with whoever they want. Again, the more I thought about it, the more it struck me as simple Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association in action.

Fine. Just don't watch NBA anymore. You have the CBA anyway. No worries and no hard feelings. You do your thing in China and we'll do ours in the US.

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