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U.S. widens trade blacklist to include some of China’s top AI startups

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Post by sremani »

pesmhey wrote: post #7
saltking112 wrote: post #3

One thing that I really like about the Trump administration is that finally the WH has decided to act against the systemic threat posed by China. Can someone who is well versed in politics shed some light on if this is a trump specific phenonemon or had there been a sea change and the dems are now on board too ?

Obama was manufacturing the pivot to Asia. The TTP would have given a lot of power to corporations to combat China. This presents its own set of problems though. Clinton was adamant that her grandchildren would not be speaking Chinese. China has been acknowledged as a threat since 2008 really, by everyone really, just, sometimes people need a very visual and visceral demonstration of action (no matter how less-optima…

Obama and Trump administration demands are pretty much similar, but when China said NO, their responses are totally different. Trump is taking China to the mat which Obama did not (what ever the reason may be).

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Post by akhilcacharya »

rpmisms wrote: post #17
akhilcacharya wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read up on mean reversion and the fact that he won a 3 million fewer votes. If he even finishes* his term that is..

Yes, and he had a 2% chance of winning his first term. Are you going to trust the polls again? I'm not.

The polls got his popular vote margin correct. They also got the Democratic generic ballot correct in 2018.

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Post by phyek »

abeppu wrote: post #10

The US claims that this blacklisting is unrelated to trade negotiations, but one has to wonder -- why did we wait until now? And if this is just a way to create leverage during trade negotiations, how would the administration gracefully reverse these blacklisting actions in exchange for something unrelated without it being patently clear that this was never about human rights?

Agreed. Clearly a negotiation tactic. I expect nothing material to come out of the upcoming meeting. I work in public equities and this has been such an ongoing headache... anyone remember when a full deal was supposed to get done by end of March 2019?

What a joke...

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Post by learc83 »

sremani wrote: post #21
pesmhey wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obama was manufacturing the pivot to Asia. The TTP would have given a lot of power to corporations to combat China. This presents its own set of problems though. Clinton was adamant that her grandchildren would not be speaking Chinese. China has been acknowledged as a threat since 2008 really, by everyone really, just, sometimes people need a very visual and visceral demonstration of action (no matter how less-optima…

Obama and Trump administration demands are pretty much similar, but when China said NO, their responses are totally different. Trump is taking China to the mat which Obama did not (what ever the reason may be).

Obama's response to contain China was the TPP. It could have been more (or less--no way to know) effective than Trump's, Obama just didn't tweet about it.

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Post by alexron782 »

mdorazio wrote: post #25
yamato2022 wrote: post #22

Human rights? How about the cruel family/child separation camps at our southern border?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_standard Double standard is pretty annoying too. Please don't use it as well.

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Post by rpmisms »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #23
rpmisms wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and he had a 2% chance of winning his first term. Are you going to trust the polls again? I'm not.

The polls got his popular vote margin correct. They also got the Democratic generic ballot correct in 2018.

Yes, but they completely missed the point of the data. Popular vote is relatively easy to predict, but Trump's campaign reached really deep into quiet conservatives who wouldn't vote otherwise.

Those people are still not going to respond to polls, and since they live in low-population areas, they won't affect the popular vote much, but they hit the electoral college hard.

The Dem voters in the primaries are a predictable population, and polling for primaries is relatively easier.

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Post by sremani »

learc83 wrote: post #27
sremani wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obama and Trump administration demands are pretty much similar, but when China said NO, their responses are totally different. Trump is taking China to the mat which Obama did not (what ever the reason may be).

Obama's response to contain China was the TPP. It could have been more (or less--no way to know) effective than Trump's, Obama just didn't tweet about it.

TPP was bad idea, it was so anti-worker I am surprised that a Democrat is supporting it. I do not have to say about the settlement system of TPP. It was stupid, literally having parallel legal system outside of all the current legal system.

TPP died for good reasons because it for technocrats by technocrats.

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