Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

Post by gowld » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 3:19 PM UTC

ameister14 wrote: post #386

IanSanders wrote: post #262

I agree 100% that we should boycott and sanction, however doubt there will be enough people who will, and enough people who care. And I don't blame most for not caring, there are more things to worry about than we have time available. Maybe 1% of hearthstone players will see your comment. Similarly, there are other entities which need to be sanctioned, which you and me won't find out about as it's outside of our area…

>Which makes me believe we need some kind of trusted "morality authority", which would process information similar to this and make informed decisions who to boycott, how and when. Less informed would be able to make an impact without having to do research (which not everyone would do equally well) You do realize how hilarious that is juxtaposed to the Chinese government, which is literally a 'morality authority,' ri…

Post by gowld » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 3:20 PM UTC

kllrnohj wrote: post #471

abbadadda wrote: post #204

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At this point it goes far beyond just gamers. From the NBA to Google, this effect is everywhere. To be explicit, the effect is U.S. firms letting China dictate what they do or do not care about on a global political scale.

> From the NBA to Google You probably want to use a different example than Google here. Particularly since Google doesn't have a China presence because they refused to censor search results, and relationships there still appear to be less than solid to say the least. Your statement works with most U.S. firms, but very much doesn't at all for Google in particular.

Post by shadowgovt » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 3:21 PM UTC

trentnix wrote: post #468

streb-lo wrote: post #432

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Hate-speech laws exist because people are programmable. Try and tell me your opinions are your own and the books and media you consume do not own some portion of them. Hate-speech laws exist to prevent the programming of people to systematically hate and exterminate other people, a lesson that has been learned many times over in history.

If hate-speech laws exist to deal with people that are programmed, wouldn't it also follow that hate-speech laws might exist because programmed people want to control the speech of others? It would go like this: hate speech is first yelling fire in a theater, then it's espousing bigotry, then it's holding the wrong opinions, until it's finally speaking ill of the Party. That's also a lesson that has been learned many…

Post by TheRealPomax » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 3:22 PM UTC

bbdksl wrote: post #507

grecy wrote: post #457

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Playing the devils advocate, maybe they are using an alt account because they don’t want people like you finding them in real life.

Post by netsharc » Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 3:23 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #451

missosoup wrote: post #428

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What factories? Everyone already has or currently is moving manufacturing operations from China to Viet Nam or India. 5 more years and the only factories China will have are going to be domestic.

If we're going to repeat the same cycle with Vietnam and India, we'd do well to encourage democracy this go-around. If we elevate authoritarian countries to our level, democracy may be in for a rough future. We should be learning a lot from the China situation. Modern China proves that authoritarian capitalism works and that you don't need freedom or liberty for your citizens. And that's incredibly scary. Imagine if…