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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by parrellel »

johnday wrote: post #149
tomp wrote: post #142

China is very smart. They saw what was happening in the West - oppression of freedom of speech on account of "hurt feelings" - and applied the same principles for their own nefarious purposes ("hurt Chinese feelings" a.k.a. political censorship). Literally noone could have seen this coming. /s edit: XCabbage better explains what I was trying to say. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21191253

This is utter nonsense. Political censorship in the East is not a response to modern liberal views in the West. That is so completely obvious that it boggles the mind that I even needed to say it.

The framing. The external framing...

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by aeturnum »

wiz21c wrote: post #492

The rule is clear : >> Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image... It says : "Blizzard is a commercial entity and it doesn't want to be involved in anything else than gaming". For me Blizzard acts in a very corporate way. There's nothing wrong with that, provided you accept the corporate way…

No one is saying that Blizzard has broken laws. People are expressing their displeasure about how Blizzard has chosen to exercise their rights.

I encourage you to hold companies to account for their actions even if those actions do not technically violate any laws.

P.s. Political opinions are on the official schedule of Disneyworld: https://dl3.pushbulletusercontent.com/UW7YGjoleObdVw7HDPeapr...

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Post by YayamiOmate »

mrbonner wrote: post #485

I see that American businesses play double standard here. In the USA, sport teams and entertainment businesses are the loudest when it comes to free speech and civil rights, LGBT rights. But they will bend over for CCP money instead of standing for the same causes. I have yet to see ANY business roll the freedom drum and make a stand about human rights when it comes to the violations in China. It’s sad that a recent…

Sadly it's not a double standard if you define standard as income. In US it brings money to shout with lgbt in china it brings money to squash the shouting.

If you redefine your morals to money it works well. Not sure if that's good but it seems it happened.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by projproj »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #188
zwaps wrote: post #139

Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Blizzard is not responsible for what players say in interviews. In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. The Chinese government tries to make it a new normal that entire people can have their "feelings hurt" (what?) by mere non-insulting…

So far I've noticed: 1> New Top Gun Movie removed a patch on Tom Cruises jacketdue to Chinese funding. 2> NBA issued an apology for an owner showing Hong Kong support and China stopped NBA broadcasts. 3> Blizzard 4> Apple Hides Taiwans Flag emoji Sounds trivial but they're the tip of the iceberg for censoring freedom of expression based on a DICTATOR's whim. Xi "Winnie The Poop" is an autocrat and once he sealed his…

- 2009 Red Dawn remake originally filmed to use China as the invaders but was edited to use North Korea afterwards [0] - Apparently the same thing was done for the 2011 game Homefront [0]

[0] https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-china-red-dawn-2...

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Post by XorNot »

umvi wrote: post #339
ekianjo wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's really hard to tell the difference between what is genuinely offensive and what is not. You can't have both "Free Speech" and "You Can't Say Anything Offensive" at the same time, because there is too much overlap. So you have to choose. The US constitution is pretty clear that "Free Speech" is the higher principle.

"Free Speech only protects you from the government, not private companies who don't want to tolerate your hate on their platform" I don't agree with this stance, but it is an oft-heard one defending companies who stifle speech (as long as the stifled speech was a far right Nazi website or anti-LGBT comments). As we see, that stance is dangerous and extends to companies stifling politically inconvenient speech like "I…

We're free to protest the move, but I'd hardly say that Apple should be forced by anyone to actually change their stance. It's their choice where they want to stand on public opinion - much as it's our choice to boycott Apple products or protest that decision they've made.

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Post by dosy »

So....it's totally okay when radical 'leftists' in the West force censorship or boycotts or content removal under fake-tolerant progressive dogma. But if you need to respect the wishes of another country, it's not okay?

Maybe you're all just too scared to question your own leftists but totally okay criticizing another country that seems so far away to you?

Because wouldn't worst thing to be labelled not an "ally" or anti-progressive? Seems it's not your position is based on absolute morality but rather a fear of being "lynched by the progressive mob of SJW keyboard warriors" hmm? But you all pretend it's morality to feel better? And all the better if you can hate on some other country to really up the self-righteous sense that your morality must somehow be rock solid and not double standard at all, hmm?

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Post by caymanjim »

Keep your politics out of my games. It's the only way games are tolerable. I can't even keep up with having to mute/ignore people in games for their constant political rants, trolling, or other stupidity. I play games to have fun. I don't care about your causes. I don't care about your beliefs. I don't care about any problems in the world. Gaming is escapism. Piss off with that nonsense and find another venue. Blizzard was right, hands down.

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Post by shantly »

busterarm wrote: post #429
loceng wrote: post #259

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I don't think most lefty-left Westerners are also pro-China. I know in my circles going after China—however ineptly and weakly—is probably the only major thing Trump's done that any of us agree with.

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Post by minitech »

leppr wrote: post #99
byte1918 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NPM fiasco should no longer be possible If you want to unpublish a package after 72 hours have passed, contact npm Support. For more information about why we don’t allow users to unpublish packages after 72 hours, see our unpublish policy. https://docs.npmjs.com/unpublishing-packages-from-the-regist...

It was never possible without "admin" intervention. That whole inccident was NPM's sole responsibility.

That’s… plainly wrong. `npm unpublish --force your-package` would really just unpublish your package.
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