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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by kkarakk »

ReptileMan wrote: post #5

This is shaping to be fun tactic in the culture war. To force corporations that want to be seen as woke in the west to bow to China which will hurt their image at home. If someone manages to do it with Nike it will be fun to watch.

Made me laugh when Apple made a big stink about privacy BUT "chose" to headquarter their messaging servers in China under "Chinese oversight" basically compromising every iMessage user in China.This is of course labelled as "compliance"

Privacy and Encryption don't mean much when the government literally controls the servers

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by atroche »

filleokus wrote: post #29
atroche wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is bowing to China woke? Not following.

The other way around. Woke Inc. want to stay woke, but they also want to not be on the bad side of the Chinese state due to business interest there. Hence, the woke company needs to do pretty un-woke things, and their hypocrisy is exposed.

I think the part that confused me was the idea of one side in the culture war forcing companies to bow to China, as a tactical manoeuvre. I just can’t see the “unwoke” segments siding with China.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by kkarakk »

jackvalentine wrote: post #31
diveanon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nothing, because in the US we have freedom of speech codified into our constitution. Unlike China.

> Article 35. Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration.

Which part of their constitution mentions the gulags they sent their muslims/protestors to?

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by diveanon »

kkarakk wrote: post #44
diveanon wrote: post #37

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What is happening there is literally what has led to revolutions in several western countries over the last couple centuries. The Chinese are correct to be afraid, they have spent the last half century cleansing the concept of freedom from their society and they are terrified of what comes next. People are going to start dying publicly in HK very soon, and the rest of the world will have to decide which side of histo…

Considering how Trump bowed down before Turkey about the christian Kurd fighters issue(basically abandoning people who were promised aid in exchange for dismantling their border security), I don't think he's going to care about Hong Kong too much

So then the real question is how do we use Trumps ego and addiction to social media to get him to start caring about HK.

His "trade war" already puts him in an adversarial stance towards from the perspective of his base.

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Post by ReptileMan »

atroche wrote: post #41
ReptileMan wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get it. It is not woke. That is the fun part. To make them dance morally in the chase of profit. To put them in between the blue checkmarks and the china government and to end pissing off both sides.

Oh, okay. It seems to me like being critical of the Chinese government is popular with both sides of the American political spectrum. Maybe even more so with conservatives!

Yeah, but claiming moral high ground for boycotting Georgia over transgender bathrooms is hard while simultaneously doing business with China with the Uygur and Hong Kong situations.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by qmmmur »

cooperadymas wrote: post #39

Is it safe to say we're in the middle of the Software Wars? The headlines have been littered with stories like this lately. From major open source contributors taking down their projects, to Apple, Adobe, and Blizzard. It's only a matter of time until it's a critical piece of software that can cripple a nation or beleaguer it's people. If you're looking for positives, maybe this will finally force people to rethink d…

It's serendipitous all these events are happening now for me personally. I was recently burned by a piece of very useful and well crafted software (closed source). I did a fresh install on my machine and went to find their website which to my dismay had completely disappeared! I followed whatever breadcrumbs were left and found a whole thing had happened while I wasn't paying attention where the copyright for this software was now in complete limbo and noone who had recently purchased a license could redownload it.

This is allegedly where the software exists now.

https://audiofile.engineering/

Which contains absolutely no trace of the program Myriad Pro.

This is the discussion from kvr about it.

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=525534

On the plus side I doubled down and learned SoX which I wrap up in some python now and it's fast, open source and others can develop on my efforts.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by diveanon »

ianleeclark wrote: post #42
diveanon wrote: post #27

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

> Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. But what about the share-holder value?

That's the best part, there is no correct choice.

Corporations love sitting the moral grey area on issues like this, but putting them in a position of having to choose between looking like Chinese stooges or getting banned from China will break their minds.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by FDSGSG »

The obvious, necessary solution would be to respond by aggressively doxing the executives of Blizzard and their large stockholders.

It's all about money until your wife and kids start getting calls at night and the cops kick in your door.

There's no reason to remain civil when fighting those who'd stand against human rights.

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