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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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How is bowing to China woke? Not following.

You don't get it. It is not woke. That is the fun part. To make them dance morally in the chase of profit. To put them in between the blue checkmarks and the china government and to end pissing off both sides.

Oh, okay. It seems to me like being critical of the Chinese government is popular with both sides of the American political spectrum. Maybe even more so with conservatives!

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#42

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

> Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China.

But what about the share-holder value?

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Being gay isn’t political.

No, being gay itself is not a political decision, but making a big deal about how progressive you are as a company because your game has gay characters is very much a political statement.

I am completely unaware of blizzard tooting their own horn for being progressive about having a gay character.

Undoubtedly they’ve used gay and lesbian characters in marketing, but marketing towards gay and lesbian people is, again, not a political statement in and of itself.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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"Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our age!" https://twitter.com/slasher/status/1181065339230130181

What is happening there is literally what has led to revolutions in several western countries over the last couple centuries. The Chinese are correct to be afraid, they have spent the last half century cleansing the concept of freedom from their society and they are terrified of what comes next. People are going to start dying publicly in HK very soon, and the rest of the world will have to decide which side of histo…

Considering how Trump bowed down before Turkey about the christian Kurd fighters issue(basically abandoning people who were promised aid in exchange for dismantling their border security), I don't think he's going to care about Hong Kong too much

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Also fired both casters working on the event, even though they did not know what was going to be said: https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181443974420189185

This might not be true though. I have heard that during the broadcast they had been supporting Hong Kong. Not saying this is the wrong thing to do though but just a fact.

If you've just heard it that does not make it a fact just yet.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#46

This is shaping to be fun tactic in the culture war. To force corporations that want to be seen as woke in the west to bow to China which will hurt their image at home. If someone manages to do it with Nike it will be fun to watch.

Not sure why this is downvoted. I think it's great and we may see users deliberately do such things to get companies to ban them, which leads to bigger publicity and awareness at little expense.

In this case, the player sacrificed the prize money and some e-status, but for the publicity it got, it was probably worth it.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#47
People seem to be really surprised that capitalism doesn’t equal freedom. Time to wake up. Free world is in decline. Democracies of today are mostly facades to a more-less controlled societies. Sure, people can vote, but what happens after that? The accountability and controlling mechanisms have been in erosion for years now. Even the EU legislation, once a model of democracy, is now so far from the individual citizen that it’s often difficult to understand why Brussels is voting on certain laws.

It used to be that free press kept close tabs on those in power. Well, thanks to the Internet it got very easy to attack the press and very hard for the press to stay profitable. We are heading towards a cliff and hopefully we will create a better system after that. But man, it will hurt to fall.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#48
post #25

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Being gay isn’t political.

No, being gay itself is not a political decision, but making a big deal about how progressive you are as a company because your game has gay characters is very much a political statement.

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Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#49
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, being gay itself is not a political decision, but making a big deal about how progressive you are as a company because your game has gay characters is very much a political statement.

I am completely unaware of blizzard tooting their own horn for being progressive about having a gay character. Undoubtedly they’ve used gay and lesbian characters in marketing, but marketing towards gay and lesbian people is, again, not a political statement in and of itself.

What exactly are you trying to say? Blizzard has indeed used pride flag in marketing materials and that is a VERY political statement

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#50
post #7

Previous discussion (for some reason, it was removed off the front page pretty quickly, hmm): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21189491

Just read through the comments here and it's obvious why it got flagged off the front page. Grade A flamewar material.
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