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Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home? Maybe we need to design our cities and public places in a way that they would be approachable for people living outside? Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside?
Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home? Maybe we need to design our cities and public places in a way that they would be approachable for people living outside? Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside?
I don't see how this would change anything. Isn't what you are proposing essentially what the shelters are, essentially without the roof?
However, homeless people are not considered as population, they're considered as aberration. If we consider them as just another population we need to support with public services, maybe every neighborhood would have facilities for homeless population, like you have facilities for pets owners, parents, as you have parks, bike trails, etc.
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>Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home? Because we aren't cavemen anymore. And a tent is a home, just a shabby, crappy, small one. >Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside? Because people also need to eat and poop and shower somewhere, and be protected from the elements, and once you incorporate all that, you get a hostel/shelter. I'll t…
Have you ever camped in a camping spot somewhere? You get electricity, bathrooms, access to kitchen etc. If we could accept the fact that some people want to live on the streets, we would be able to make their life much easier and better without imposing a certain philosophy on how they should be living.
There are many people for which the definition of camping specifically excludes those things.
Wow, that article's rhetoric is seething with social darwinistic class hatred. All these voluntary homeless seems to be conspicuously absent in western Europe. At least at this scale. Insisting on, which the author clearly does according to a quick googling, firmly supporting and perpetuating an economic system that creates these dystopian features and then calling for their forceful removal, through weasel language,…
Since your governments go ahead and remove people who are trying to live in public spaces, you don't see them, and you assume they don't exist.
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2017/10/berlin-has-been-payin...
https://www.politico.eu/article/homelessness-qa-freek-spinne...
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>Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home? Because we aren't cavemen anymore. And a tent is a home, just a shabby, crappy, small one. >Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside? Because people also need to eat and poop and shower somewhere, and be protected from the elements, and once you incorporate all that, you get a hostel/shelter. I'll t…
Have you ever camped in a camping spot somewhere? You get electricity, bathrooms, access to kitchen etc. If we could accept the fact that some people want to live on the streets, we would be able to make their life much easier and better without imposing a certain philosophy on how they should be living.
If people don't want to be homeless, we should do everything in our power to help them get into housing, sustainably. But if they do? No thanks, do that somewhere else, where the land can be reasonably and cost-effectively set up to support that. One of the most expensive, highly-regulated real estate markets in the US is not that place.
this article sounds like a drunken conservative rant
Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home? Maybe we need to design our cities and public places in a way that they would be approachable for people living outside? Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside?
Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home? Maybe we need to design our cities and public places in a way that they would be approachable for people living outside? Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside?
Because we're not animals, and have lived in at least caves since 10.000 years or more...
Also because it's 2019, and there's no excuse.
Maybe you could try some living in "camping spots in cities" in winter, for example?
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I don't see how this would change anything. Isn't what you are proposing essentially what the shelters are, essentially without the roof?
Take children playgrounds for example - you have them where you have a lot of families with kids, right? And that makes sense since that is kind of public infrastructure supporting the needs of a certain population. However, homeless people are not considered as population, they're considered as aberration. If we consider them as just another population we need to support with public services, maybe every neighborhoo…
Shelters are there. And in shelters they get all they need. How is this different from a campground? The only difference you are talking about is that in campings they would have a tent instead of a roof, unless I am missing something. Homeless people don't want to go in. They don't want to give up drugs. How do you think that providing a "camping" playground would solve the problems?
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Have you ever camped in a camping spot somewhere? You get electricity, bathrooms, access to kitchen etc. If we could accept the fact that some people want to live on the streets, we would be able to make their life much easier and better without imposing a certain philosophy on how they should be living.
Civilization is exactly about imposing a philosophy on how people should live. Like it or not, that's how it works. If you don't want to play ball, there are plenty of open spaces in the US where people can live off the land without creating a public health hazard. If people don't want to be homeless, we should do everything in our power to help them get into housing, sustainably. But if they do? No thanks, do that s…
It's a moving target and it should be moving in a direction of achieving the best outcome for everyone, regardless if they're investment bankers or heroin addicts.
People thinking like you have been trying to stop progress since we got down from the trees. It's this ridiculous idea that how things are now is something that has to be kept and preserved.
It is a disservice to humanity - those ideas never survive history test, just cause better future for everyone to come later than it could.